Andy H2

1929: Justice for the First of the Gooners - Henry Norris – a lifetime ban from Football – too little too late - Sir Henry got his come-uppance. In 1929 the FA banned him from soccer because he constantly flouted their rules and was also suspected of making illegal payments to players. A year after he was banned, Arsenal won the FA Cup for the first time and in 1931 became the first London side to win the Championship. Tottenham, meanwhile, spent most of the 1930s in the second division -- their glory days still in the future

1929: Herbert’s Legacy – Ex Spur Herbert Chapman managed to get some of the Spurs Lilywhite into their kit by making the sleeves white – but his other efforts to weaken Arsenal failed as they won the league a couple of times under his control

1968: Bob Wilson – Oriental spy

1971: George Graham - claimed a goal in some cup final or other that he blatantly did not get anywhere near to touching

1974: Don Howe – Criminally Insane individual

1979: Alan Sunderland - "and you're just a murderer, Sunderland"

1979: Peter Story - jail for running a brothel

1980: Peter Story - jail again, this time for counterfeit gold coins

1981: Kenny Sansom – played for England

1987: Paul Vassen - Drug stuff

1988: Paul Davis - breaking Glenn Cockerill's jaw during a first division game

1989: Paul Merson and Steve Bould are "disciplined by Arsenal" after late night incident at sponsor's function.

1989: Arsenal are fined £20,000 by FA for part in brawl during game against Norwich

1990: Peter Story - jail again - this time for porn smuggling conviction

1990: Merson, Groves , Winterburn & Richardson sent home from club tour of Singapore following another alleged "late night incident".

1990: Arsenal fined £50,000 by FA and docked two points after Old Trafford brawl. The Club in turn fined manager George Graham two weeks wages after holding him responsible for lack of discipline on the field.

1990: Tony Adams - Jailed on drunk-driving charges.

1991: Paul Merson, Ian Wright and David Seaman charged by FA with misconduct after incidents at end of first division match at Oldham.

1982: Lee Dixon – played for England, and even Adams used to sing “if Dixon plays for England so could I” to him in training

1993: Andy Linaghan makes anti Semitic remarks to Jewish Taxi driver

1993: Ian Wright banned for three games after FA commission upheld charge that he had directed a punch at Tottenham's David Howells during game at White Hart Lane. Commission also fine George Graham £500 for improper remarks to referee Alf Bush after same match.

1994: Paul Merson, probably for a bet or when he was pissed, was sent to drug addiction clinic

1994: David Seamen dumped his Mrs and Kids for some floozy

1994: George Graham's £430,000 bungs first reported

1995: Ray Parlour arrested after punch-up with Hong Kong taxi-driver on a club tour

1995: Graham found guilty by FA inquiry and banned from football for 12 months.

1995: David Hillier charged by police for credit card and luggage theft at airport.

1996: Donkey Adams confesses to his teammates that he is an alcoholic (and then puts his arm round them telling them they are his best mate).

1996: Nigel Winterburn under investigation by the FA after the police reported him to match officials for making inflammatory gestures towards rival supporters in the wheelchair section

1996: Ian Wright (again) on an FA Misconduct charge for calling Sheffield Wednesday manager David Pleat a pervert.

1996: Arsenal players involved in half-time scuffle with Coventry players in the tunnel & Ian Wright smashes and badly breaks Coventry goalkeeper Steve Ogrizivic's nose

1996. Unfounded & completely untrue rumours circulated about Arsene Wenger being a paedophile! which he most certainly is not.

1998: From the repulsive JVC, they are now sponsored by the Italian word for ****, Sega. Apparently “Arsenal” means something disgusting in most languages

1998: Dutch winger Glenn Helder attempted suicide after becoming a compulsive gambler whilst at Scumbury

1999: Despite "New" Arsenal, they still have the worst disciplinary record in the league

1999: Ian Wright Chicken tonight advert

1999: Graham Rix - Old Gooner instincts die hard, as he joins the rest of his former team mates inside for a spot of under age sex

1999: Sheffield United in the Cup scandal - Typical example of their cheating ethos. It was the 5th round, it was 1-1. A Sheff United striker had gone down after a Grimandi challenge and the ball was cleared, eventually coming through to the United keeper and, as Bergkamp closed in, the keeper cleared into touch so his team-mate could receive treatment. There followed a break while the United man got treatment, and was substituted. Parlour then took the throw, but rather than give it back to United, as almost all honourable sportsmen will do, he threw it to Kanu who passed it to Overmars who scored the winner. Evil and wicked

2000: Patrick Vie

I have been accused in the past of not giving Arsenal a fair crack of the whip...some Arsenal fans on here were angry that i had implied that (i mean no personal offense to Arsenal fans, or anyone else) their players/managers and fans, had criminal records, and or had broken the law, or had been accused of cheating, so to put the record straight and clear up any confusion, and perhaps in my defence, I have prepared the following statement of facts, so people can make their own decision.....

In the beginning…

1886: Gooner Stench. Formed from leftovers and cr*p in South London a good 4 years after Spurs were born, Dial Square as they were originally known played their first match on a field with an open sewer running through the middle – the stench remains an integral part of them to this day

1887: Early end. After being battered 2-1 in the first match between Spurs and Arsenal, Arsenal cried to the ref to get the game abandoned with 15 minutes to play, which it was – although Spurs were the moral winners, and have been ever since.

1913: INVASION OF NORTH LONDON. Henry Norris was a west London estate agent who dreamed of challenging the dominance of Northern and midlands clubs in the English League early in the last century. Norris, who later became mayor of Fulham, a Conservative member of parliament and earned a knighthood as well as a lifetime ban from soccer, believed that if he merged ailing Woolwich Arsenal of south London with Fulham in west London his dream of a London super-club could take shape. But the League blocked his proposals, so he cut his ties with Fulham, gambled all on Arsenal and moved them across the River Thames and north to the wide-open spaces of Highbury. The only trouble with this plan was that the new stadium was close to the established homes of Tottenham three miles north and Clapton Orient, two miles east. Despite Spurs and Orient's protests, the League was powerless to prevent the move and in 1913 the North London rivalry between Arsenal-Spurs began. If Tottenham were upset about Arsenal moving on to their doorstep, they had even more reason to be angry six years later, for Sir Henry wasn't finished with Spurs.

1919: Get Spurs relegated and Arsenal promoted from 6th position - In 1915, when Football ended because of World War One, Chelsea and Spurs had finished bottom of the first division and Arsenal were sixth in Division two. The League planned to expand the first division by two clubs and precedent dictated that the two bottom clubs would stay up and the top two in the second division would join them. Sir Henry had other ideas. To this day the details of exactly what occurred at the league's meeting in March 1919 remains a mystery, but by the end of the day, Arsenal had been voted into the first division and Spurs voted out. Arsenal have never been out of the top flight since.

1919: Parrot Killers - Spurs embarked on a tour of South America ( Argentina & Uruguay ) in 1909. The boat journey either way to Argentina was fairly long. One of the distractions provided for the passengers on the way home was a fancy dress competition. It was actually won by two of the Spurs' players dressed as Robinson Crusoe and Man Friday. The ship had a parrot and they had borrowed it as one of their props. As a result the parrot was presented to the club (or the two players) by the ship's captain. And yes it is claimed that the bird died on the day the dirty deed took place in 1919, which saw Arsenal replace Spurs in the first division. It has been suggested in some quarters that this was the origin of the phrase "as sick as a parrot"! Add Parrot murderers to their list of crimes

1923: Get Gillespie Road station renamed - The Gooner scum also managed to get Gillespie Road station renamed to Arsen*l station by some dodgy dealings with London Transport and the local council. A wrong that should be righted as soon as they move to their unconverted rubbish dump at Ashburton Grove.

1924: Druggie cheats – More tales of Gooners up to no good with manager Leslie Knighton admitting giving performance enhancing drugs to his sh*t players during their unsuccessful 1924 FA Cup run.

1927: Help Spurs get relegated – Rumours that they did not play their best in certain matches to ensure Spurs were relegated

1929: Justice for the First of the Gooners - Henry Norris – a lifetime ban from Football – too little too late - Sir Henry got his come-uppance. In 1929 the FA banned him from soccer because he constantly flouted their rules and was also suspected of making illegal payments to players. A year after he was banned, Arsenal won the FA Cup for the first time and in 1931 became the first London side to win the Championship. Tottenham, meanwhile, spent most of the 1930s in the second division -- their glory days still in the future

1929: Herbert’s Legacy – Ex Spur Herbert Chapman managed to get some of the Spurs Lilywhite into their kit by making the sleeves white – but his ot

Top Ten: Career nosedives in reverse order...

10. David Bentley

In July ’08, Spurs signed Bentley from Blackburn for £15m, with the winger looking to cement his place in the England team. Come the end of last season, the 24-year-old couldn’t even find his way onto Spurs’ bench after a spectacular loss of form. Perhaps he should have spent less time kicking balls into skips.

9. Freddie Ljungberg

In his final months at Arsenal, Freddie suffered from the dual losses of Dennis Bergkamp, who was so good at picking out the Swede’s incisive runs, and his acceleration, meaning Arsene Wenger moved him onto West Ham. After one forgettable season at Upton Park, it was clear that the underwear model was now – yes – pants.

8. Damien Duff

After providing so much penetration down Chelsea’s flanks for Jose Mourinho, the Newcastle iteration of Duff looked impotent in comparison. After a series of injuries, the pace and end product had gone, and the Irishman’s performances did little to fight off the Toon’s relegation.

7. Lee Bowyer

Since thrusting Leeds’ midfield forward in the Champions League in 2001, Bowyer’s career has gone into reverse, reaching a nadir with his on-field scrap with Kieron Dyer for Newcastle. Given another chance to impress at the top level with recent transfer to Birmingham.

6. Lauren

Lauren was a key member of Arsenal’s 03/04 Invincibles team, providing defensive solidity as well as toughness. When he found his first-team chances at the Gunners curtailed by the emergence of Emmanuel Eboue, the Cameroonian moved to Portsmouth, where he was usurped by Glen Johnson after failing to impress.

5. Alan Smith

At one point the tenacious Smith was seen as Roy Keane’s heir as the defensive presence in Manchester United’s midfield, but the ex-Leeds man was severely hampered by a broken leg in 2006 and hasn’t regained his form since. Yet to score for Newcastle despite being there for two seasons.

4. Danny Mills

Mills deputised capably for Gary Neville in England’s 2002 World Cup first eleven, but ever since that high point the right-back has struggled to find games. Currently without a club having been released from Manchester City on July 1st.

3. Andy van der Meyde

After scoring a fantastic Champions League goal for Inter Milan, the Dutch winger’s career looked on an inexorably upward trajectory. After being found surplus to requirements in Inter’s bloated squad, however, van der Meyde moved to Everton in 2005. He is still to achieve anything of note in a Toffees shirt.

2. Paul Robinson

Just when it seemed Robbo had the England #1 jersey cemented, he dropped the ball – quite literally, and quite regularly – after suffering a crisis of confidence from which he still hasn’t recovered, although his form did show signs of improvement at Blackburn last term.

1. Andrei Shevchenko

The Ukrainian arrived at Chelsea for £30m, and now it seems that they would struggle to give him away. Problems settling in England have eroded Shevchenko’s confidence, with his performances seeming like he wanted one more touch on the ball than the relentless Premier League would afford him.

Anyone think of any others?

Lots of Spurs fans are complaining about the new kit, but I think it's a nice kit, and I can't understand why such a big problem with the yellow!!

personally i dont understand all the fuss, i'm 42 now been a spurs fan since i was 6, as far as i'm concerned our colours have always been white, blue and yellow.always in the late 70's and 80's our main away kit was yellow, and i always liked it..i've still got a scarf i bought outside wembley in 1981 which is predominately yellow, with blue and white!! I think the yellow away kit is much better than that **** purple/blue thing we had not long ago!! and where did sky blue come from??!! So i don't think a little yellow on the shirt is a problem, we've had blue on there before..it's all part of our colour system!!and i think it doesn't look too bad!! for the away kit, i'd like to see the blue and yellow mixed..blue shorts, yellow top, or vice versa!!

Is it just a coincidence that the only channel showing this match live is:-

Show Comedy Extra

http://liveonsat.com/08_foot_english_al.php?start_...

watch this - very funny.....but beware of very strong language!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsQg1dnwiY

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Nayim from 50 ... Belleti from 2!

but have never at anytime lost a home game in a european tournament!

other clubs...real madrid,etc may have won more trophies,but they have lost at home,i think spurs are the only team who never lost at home!

is that still the case?

they very rarely play english players.

they seem to complain and cheat more than anyone else.

and their manager is the smugest bastard in football!!