Is political correctness nothing more than subtle Leftist censorship?

Simular to Hate Crime Laws being thought control?

2007-10-15T16:02:36Z

Argle... Simple politeness is saying yes sir no sir. Making people afraid of speaking the truth or even their opinion is not.

2007-10-15T16:07:30Z

i) "In his book, The End of Sanity, Martin Gross writes that 'blatantly irrational behavior is rapidly being established as the norm in almost every area of human endeavor. There seem to be new customs, new rules, new anti-intellectual theories regularly foisted on us from every direction. Underneath, the nation is roiling. Americans know something without a name is undermining the nation, turning the mind mushy when it comes to separating truth from falsehood and right from wrong. And they don't like it.' ...Before you claim to be a champion of free thought, tell me: Why did political correctness originate on America's campuses? And why do you continue to tolerate it? Why do you, who're supposed to debate ideas, surrender to their suppression? Let's be honest. Who here thinks your professors can say what they really believe? It scares me to death, and should scare you, too, that the superstition of political correctness rules the halls of reason.

2007-10-15T16:07:54Z

You are the best and the brightest. You, here in the fertile cradle of American academia, here in the castle of learning on the Charles River, you are the cream. But I submit that you, and your counterparts across the land, are the most socially conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord Bridge. And as long as you validate that...and abide it...and you are- by your grandfathers' standards-cowards....If you talk about race, it does not make you a racist. If you see distinctions between genders, it does not make you a sexist. If you think critically about a denomination, it does not make you anti-religion. If you accept but don't celebrate homosexuality, it does not make you a homophobe." Charlton Heston, February 16, 1999, Harvard Law School Forum. (www.narila.org/ila/hestonhs.htm)

2007-10-15T16:08:39Z

e) "But it is impossible to ignore the fact that the United States is becoming an ideological state. The ideology of Political Correctness, which openly calls for the destruction of our traditional culture, has so gripped the body politic, has so gripped our institutions, that it is even affecting the Church. It has completely taken over the academic community. It is now pervasive in the entertainment industry, and it threatens to control literally every aspect of our lives. Those who came up with Political Correctness, which we more accurately call 'Cultural Marxism,' did so in a deliberate fashion. I'm not going to go into the whole history of the Frankfurt School and Herbert Marcuse and the other people responsible for this. Suffice it to say that the United States is very close to becoming a state totally dominated by an alien ideology, an ideology bitterly hostile to Western culture. Even now, for the first time in their lives, people have to be afraid of what they say.

2007-10-15T16:09:04Z

This has never been true in the history of our country. Yet today, if you say the 'wrong thing,' you suddenly have legal problems, political problems, you might even lose your job or be expelled from college. Certain topics are forbidden. You can't approach the truth about a lot of different subjects. If you do, you are immediately branded as 'racist,' 'sexist,' 'homophobic,' 'insensitive,' or 'judgmental.'" Paul Weyrich, February 16, 1999 personal letter.
http://www.schwarzreport.org/

2007-10-15T16:21:00Z

ArgleBar... I went ahead and read further from the blog from which you pulled your quote (you don't even have the common decency to link to it, thereby taking credit for the writing). Regardless, further it says: ‘In the wake of 9/11, the moment of conservative attacks on oppositional, left, and even liberal academics has been way more intense and sometimes more aggressively, brutally direct than before. In fact, the conjuncture of 9/11 has afforded conservatives the opportunity and scope to continue to launch their attacks on certain segments of academia—this time, in the name of patriotism. I submit that there is now a symptomatic and revealing conjunctural shift from mere political correctness to patriotism, which has become the opium of certain segments of the population in the US.’

You know… in this aspect the author is correct. The extreme Right is rising to counter the extreme Left that has been instilling the disease of communism into America for the past 30 years.

2007-10-15T16:21:12Z

You people are getting worried… and you should because, we are fed up with you.

2007-10-15T16:47:54Z

Wolf - that is precisly the point. We already have laws in place that punish people. Why did we need to add hate crimes?

coragryph2007-10-15T16:04:41Z

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Hate crimes are not anything related to thought control -- at least, no more than the distinction between any intentional crime and any negligent crime -- hate crimes just punish a more severe mental state differently than a lesser mental state.

So your analogy is not valid -- but your basic premise is not too far off the mark -- political correctness is a way of censoring people by peer pressure -- of telling people that it is not acceptable to think and feel in a socially unpopular way -- and it's rarely subtle.

But that's different than the hate crime issue -- because a hate crime doesn't punish you for thinking hateful thoughts -- it punishes someone for attempting to harm an entire category of people -- that's a specific criminal mental state, COMBINED with an direct attack against a representative of that target group -- very different than simply punishing someone based on their beliefs.

Anonymous2007-10-15T19:36:48Z

Very good question. However, I wouldn't call "hate crimes" a form of thought control. I think the invention of "hate laws" is not only the most unconstitutional laws in America, but they are among the most blatantly RACIST laws on the books. They send the message that when a white man attacks a black man with superior intellect, the black man is too undisciplined to control his emotions and rage, and then there is no stopping the physical retaliation. The law (the liberals believe) is to prevent the white man from provoking the uncontrolable physical response of the black man.

As you can see these laws are completely racist.

pachl@sbcglobal.net2007-10-15T16:55:13Z

I used to work in an office where the lilly-livered management would turn apoplectic if you advocated holding everyone to some basic standard of performance and behavior.

Oh no! That could be interpreted as racist! Or sexist! Or it might somehow infringe on their religious beliefs. We can't actually tell people that they are using their gender or ethnic background as a shield to deflect well-deserved criticism.

As a result of PC behavior, you couldn't state the obvious.

We were subjected to the indignity of taking a day-long course in "diversity training", where we learned that "Alice" isn't shirking her responsibilities; she is from a culture that is different from mainstream American practices. "Rashid" isn't surly and rude. That is typical of his background. Embrace these wonderful differences.

Well, you get the picture...

In response, I wrote this response to the PC insanity of diversity training:

Instead of diversity training, we need conformity training. We already have enough people making lame excuses for why they don’t do what they’re instructed to do.

Conformity training would be a more productive and thought provoking class. Issues could include:

I have been told to do something. How can I do it without making excuses such as: “I forgot”, “Are we still supposed to do that?” “I didn’t understand the instructions”, or “I haven’t gotten around to that yet”.
Our office asks us to follow certain procedures. How can I follow them without making a big stink about every little, nitpicky thing that doesn’t suit my particular preferences?

I have equipment. How can I take at least minimal care and responsibility for it, and learn the basics to use the equipment efficiently?

Conformity training could also stress such topics such as how it is in everyone’s interest to complete a simple 15-second task instead of making someone else waste half an hour or more to compensate for that person’s apathy and laziness. Conformity training should teach the benefits of following the plainly written instructions detailed in an e-mail, instead of forcing the sender to keep sending the same message month after month after month.

Let’s face it: “Diversity” is just a laughable justification for people explaining away their laziness and stupidity under the guise that their screw ups are just a reflection of their gender, or ethnic background. It should go in the trash heap of discarded corporate ideas, such as power ties, and how the computer would give us the paperless office.

Instead of enduring peoples’ inconceivable laziness and the inhumanly stupid behavior, we should be holding them to a high standard, and accepting nothing less. Irresponsible behavior shouldn’t be condoned as the norm. People should not be coddled when all they are asked to do follow instructions purposely written at a sixth grade level, for their convenience.

Bluntly stated, this PC waste of time called "diversity training" is another excuse for people to not do any real work. Certain people love idle meetings that take them away from real work and the need to actually think. It’s just like congressmen who live to be part of judicial review panels so they can expound on pointless subjects such as Clinton’s immorality instead of performing the hard, tedious work of drafting logical and feasible legistlation.

Worrying about “diversity” has made the formerly commonplace practically impossible. Everything has become pointlessly controversial.

Enough of this ridiculous focus on “diversity” and cultural sensitivity! ! We have enough fragmentation as it is.

Let’s center our attention on what needs to be standardized, on behavior that needs to be remedied, and on basic skills and knowledge that everyone should be expected to have.

Anonymous2007-10-15T17:48:38Z

Sure is a way of making sure that only one side can be heard.

It is PC not to mention or think of a group by race, religion or sex.
Yet they are all over the Christian Right males.

Here is something to consider.
We accept Black channels ie BET
What would happen if one came out and said White channel WET?

koutsky2016-10-09T11:33:20Z

Republicans many times are no longer for government controlled censorship. they're for persons or companies censoring themselves for uncomplicated decency and etiquette, yet any government censorship could be heavily constrained. Your examples are of poorly thinking Republicans applying Democrat suggestions to their problems. Republicans could disown any member who needs the government to bypass regulations to resolve their own grievances.

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