Home school chemistry laboratory. How can a parent who is not a chemist cope with lab work?

I have a degree in chemistry and years of chemistry lab teaching experience. I know how difficult it is to teach a chem lab. How is it possible for home schoolers to perform this without cheating their students (children)?

2007-11-14T08:45:02Z

Let me get this straight. I am not putting down home schooling, but I do know that chemistry labs are very important in preparation for college level chemistry studies.

I have seen home school students who could take the college chemistry with no problems, but I also had students who were no where near prepared for the hands-on laboratory.

Chemistry, unlike some other subjects, cannot be taught correctly without the laboratory exercises. This would be like teaching auto mechanics without a shop experienced.

I do not want to hear about how poor your local public school might be. That is the fault of the voters in your locality. I want to know how home school teachers cope with teaching chemistry as a laboratory subject in preparation for jobs or higher education.

Is there a need for some home school specialists?

2007-11-14T18:09:11Z

I am not against home schooling. I am trying to learn some details. I know from personal experience that my parents were not capable of teaching me chemistry at home.

I know that at the college level, many of my students who required the most help (especially in the laboratory) were home schooled. But most were capable of putting in the effort that was needed to catch up.

As to who other than chemists might need chemistry, many. Doctor and nurses and other health care professionals are one group (some of which have less than adequate chemistry education).

One cannot argue logically with a scientist and win if one does not know science.

A parent who has never taken a chemistry course would be brave or foolish to believe that lab lessons are not needed. Chemists know the importance of labs in teaching.

If you are not an artist, you might have a difficult time teaching a student to oil paint. Saying the labs are not needed is not coping, it is avoiding the issue.

2007-11-15T12:57:56Z

heartintennessee --

Most have no problems with the theory. It is the physical use of the equipment and instruments where problems arise. Some were taught to pipet by mouth! Most did not know the proper use of a balance (even a digital one). Little things, like knowing to hold a coin shaped stopper between the fingers instead of laying it down. Many could not use a spatula or rubber policeman correctly. Most had no idea how to assemble pieces with ground glass connectors or how to properly adjust a burner flame.

Only a couple had ever seen or used a cylinder of compressed gas. Most could not read the liquid level (meniscus) in a graduated cylinder.

Other problems had to do with recording in ink and never scratching out any mistakes (a line should be drawn through the incorrect recording).

Many did not even know to tie their hair back and not wear sandals in the lab. Some all but refused to wear goggles.

There must be hundreds more, but these were the most common,

Yarnlady_needsyarn2007-11-14T10:02:57Z

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Yes, a home school specialist program taught by a professional is a valuable service.

We enrolled our homeschoolers in the Discovery Museum classes as much as possible. It was worthwhile training. We also had them attend the Art Museum classes, and many other opportunities that we found at various public facilities.

Anonymous2007-11-14T08:40:21Z

1) Cooperative education classes
2) Community Colleges
3) We have a large pharma company in our area that provides some science / chemical educational opportunities to students
4) One of my best friends is a chemist at a fortune 100 company and we get assistance that way (one of the things that we got "turned on to" is a concept called unit cancellation that is not typically taught until college - look into it).

I thought once upon a time about starting a company - I was going to call it LabRats - to provide hands-on science laboratories to homeschool (and other) kids. The labs would be professionally equipped (so parents did not have to invest in bunches of equipment) and lessons, experiments, supplies and such provided. I still think it is a good idea but never and probably will never get it off the ground.

Chetco2007-11-16T21:09:36Z

Richard, I home schooled my daughter, and not my son.
I can only speak for the two high schools in my area. One had an alcoholic Chem teacher, that passed anyone who was there most of the days. The other taught so far above the student's heads, that they learned very little that was useful. Thankfully, our Junior College filled in the gaps.
Our school district offered any supplies that home schoolers needed. I was able to get the same curriculum as was taught in the public schools. I only used them for math, chem and American History. I developed the rest of the curriculum.
Admittedly, my daughter didn't get good lab experience, but a had a general knowledge of chemistry, and the hands-on that could be learned from a quality home chemistry set.
Her education, as a whole, was far superior to what she would have received in public school.
For instance our goat was having problems delivering her kids. My daughter lubed her arms, reached in between the contractions, discovered that the first baby was presented wrong, pushed it back further in, turned it, and delivered it!
And helped the tired and stressed goat deliver two more kids.

This was when she was 13, when most other girls were giggling and primping in front of the mirrors.
I think she had a much better biology education than would have been learned in public school.
I think the pros far outweighed the cons.

Our district had a group of home-schoolers, meeting every Tuesday for accountability. We had a school principal that offered guidance, looked over the week's work and approved lesson plans. The kids met for social events, and field trips.

homeschoolmom2007-11-15T08:56:04Z

Many homeschoolers pool their resources, especially at the high school level, and use a co-op for lab-type classes (bio, chem). Also, there are many excellent programs available that include some type of lab work.

I am not quite to the high school level yet, so I'm not exactly sure what we'll do, but could you tell me please what labwork is really necessary in high school that can't or won't be covered in college? Since I wasn't studying a hands-on science curriculum in college, I never took another "lab" course after high school.

Anonymous2007-11-14T11:23:57Z

I was recently talking to the mom of a child who just started high school and is taking chemistry. She says that her daughter is finding extremely dull as there is no lab work at all. I was shocked to hear this as I'd always thought that there was loads of lab work in high school.
Before she went to highschool this girl was taking chemistry lessons with a tutor. There is no reason why homeschoolers couldn't take lessons with a tutor and do lab work there. And even if they didn't if all high schools do such minimal lab work homeschoolers aren't missing anything.

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