Question two is not even worth considering, what a stupid thing to say. Of course they can change their mind about it later if they want to. Question one - Win or lose in *what way* exactly? How can you even measure what is a win and what is a loss? Besides, Pascal's wager is not a phrase or saying like 'no true Scotsman'. It is a real idea, a fallacious one at that, but my point is we don't just say it randomly. Look it up.