Camille Saint-Saens: your opinion? favorites of his? genuine Renaissance man?

Just been reading an article about him in Wikipedia(I know, I know: not completely trustworthy).

An astonishing individual; vies with Mozart for the world's most talented child prodigy ever.

He was not only an accomplished composer, but an expert mathmetician, botanist, you name it: a real reanaissance man.

Which do you consider to be his best, or your favorite, compositions?

I think mine would be the following:

"Phaeton": a symphonic(tone)poem, based on the Greek mythological character. Love this piece; but sadly, it's rarely performed and relatively unknown.

"Carnival of the Animals": especially the recording made by Arthur Fiedler and Boston Pops(sure, no longer available).

"Organ Symphony #-3": I don't think anyone, is unable to relate to its heroic, Victorian finale.

No limit,

Alberich

2008-05-15T17:32:24Z

"Lisa": If you are able to locate a rendition of "Phaeton" on the Internet, please let me know; haven't heard it in a long time, and don't have a recording of it.

Guess I'll check You Tube, in the slim chance there is one on there.

Alberich

2008-05-15T22:14:06Z

LATER: Checked You Tube; nothing but the D.M. In case anyone might be interested, S.S. composed 4 tone poems: D.M., "Phaeton", "Omphalae's Spinning Wheel", and "Hercules".

"Hercules" in my opinion, is the least rewarding - "Phaeton", the most.

Alberich

2008-05-16T11:07:01Z

"glinzek": You're certainly entitled to your "taste" in music; and I want presume to contest it.

BUT, should you or anyone else locate a rendition of "Phaeton", please post the website - many thanks.

Alberich

2008-05-18T20:55:36Z

"Malcom D": Most insightful; think I would have to completely agree.

Thanks to everyone, for some really great answers: sorry that Yahoo want permit gradations, such as 9,8,7 etc., and only 10 for a one best, which I feel is most unfair: I don't care for "all or nothing", in any competition situtation; but what can you do? I don't think they(the program designers) pay any attention whatsoever to our complaints or recommendations.

Alberich

Malcolm D2008-05-15T18:41:21Z

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Of the acknowledged "great composers," Saint Saens is probably the most underappreciated. His music is absolutely wonderful. The reason for the lack of true appreciation is probably due to the fact that as time passed for SS, his music became progressively more "classical" and less aligned with that produced by the newer younger composers such as Mahler, Stravinsky and Ravel. As it turns out, he was blessed with an elegant and harmonious composition style (which may be why I like him so well) and this did not sit well with the artistic elite of the day. His output is regarded as somewhat inconsistent, some works even labelled as appallingly boring. However, bearing in mind that he was vastly creative, his legacy should not be denigrated especially bearing in mind that some of his revolutionary contemporaries such as Schoenberg are still only highly regarded by the academics and virtually shunned by even the more enthusiastic classical music listening public.
His best compositions are generally his well known ones -his piano concertos are lovely.

Allison2008-05-15T18:59:29Z

I definitely think he's under rated. He was definitely one of the most....prodigious... child prodigies.

I recently played the piano part of his organ symphony - it's amazing playing that piece with a full orchestra and a huge, 1928 Skinner organ. So, I would have to say, that piece is one of my favorites of his.

Carnival of the Animals - really neat work. Once again, definitely near the top of my list.

His cello concerto (no 1) is one of my favorites too. His second, although not as well known (most people just say "Saint-Saens Cello Concerto" and others just assume No. 1), is also wonderful.

Dance Macabre is a pretty neat piece - I love the col legno in the strings.

All of his piano concerti, of course.

I don't know Phaeton. I will definitely listen to it.

Allison

Lisa2008-05-15T16:25:14Z

Crazy genius and child prodigy for sure! I'm going to have to go listen to Phaeton.

I'm biased. I have explored his cello concerto for years and although popular, I still very much love it. It's deceptively difficult, intricate, lovely. I love how its really just one continuous movement and how he really makes wonderful use of Am. Most musicians acknowledge the different personalities of the different keys, but to me it epitomizes the personality of Am. I love how the coda is the parallel major! So COOOOOOL!

Anyway, I love Samson and Delilah as well. He has the emotion of Chopin and the grandness of Tchaikovsky in his compositional pallet. It's really amazing.

~Lisa

Edit: I don't like the second, the Dm, as much as the first cello concerto (still wonderful). Perhaps 'cause its more Classical sounding. There is something just so driving and powerful about the first. Maybe thats why its the more famous one.

rdenig_male2008-05-18T06:15:56Z

I agree, Saint-Saens is probably the most underrated of the great composers. His Piano Concertos are fabulous and mould breaking in many cases (listen to the 2nd if you've never heard it). He wrote loads of great songs and chamber music - have you heard the septet for piano, trumpet and strings? He wrote several other symphonies apart from the 3rd, 'Organ Symphony' That is in mould breaking form - and not many could write a tune like the big one' (ruined, of course, by being used as the theme for the movie 'Babe')

Anonymous2016-04-06T04:43:40Z

The best known is Dance Macabre. (I didn't realize that was a tone poem! You don't think of Saint-Saens writing tone poems.) But Omphale's Spinning Wheel is my favorite, I'd say.

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