Christians don't seem to want to give me a real answer to this question--?
Why do you choose to worship a God who commands genocide?
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Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.
(1 Sam 15:2-3)
2008-06-29T17:52:34Z
I'm impressed that one or two christians have given me real answers.
Unfortunately, they bolster my point. If you're going to follow a movement that endorses genocide, you had better be damned sure it's true and on firm, logical grounds.
We all know that Christianity fails that test... unless you really think that you can see all the Earth from certain high mountaintops and pi is an integer.
2008-06-29T17:56:24Z
If I'm taking this out of context, then I beg you, correct me.
Also, commanding that they be exterminated because they're heretical against Yahweh is still genocide-- you're not addressing my question.
Also, I'm loudly, vocally heretical against Yahweh. If he exists, may he strike me dead. If I don't post again in a minute or two, check the papers for strange deaths in Buffalo, New York.
2008-06-29T17:58:52Z
Still here.
"God is a vengeful God. He made the world and can shape or destroy it to his liking. If seems that those people that have never actually read the Bible or understand it are the only ones that see "holes" in it or think it "contradicts" itself, not you I am sure."
That is seriously f&$%ed up. It's not like someone in the third century discovered that Yahweh exists and Vishnu doesn't. You're ultimately making an arbitrary choice based on faith. And you're choosing a God that demands genocide. I'm interested in the psychological underpinnings of that.
2008-06-29T19:57:19Z
I'm amazed at the vitriol I've gotten in response to this... I literally just quoted the fracking bible.
Emmy [Redux]2008-06-29T17:46:50Z
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Some of them are only pro-life when it's convenient, remember?
Like with Fouro33 down there, when they have to justify something, they compare living beings to cancer-- even the infants! Hey, Fouro, were the infants and suckling newborns enemies of Israel as well? But I see what you mean-- all the babies and animals of Afghanistan were chuckling with glee at our loss too! I remember thinking, "I hope US soldiers kill every infant, suckling, ox, sheep, camel, and donkey in that god forsaken nation."
You're not interested in the reasons for anything Christians do. You just want an audience to posture in front of and spew out your anger at God. You don't get this angry at something you don't believe in. You not only believe in Him, you feel rejected by Him, if He did strike you dead at least you'd know He was paying attention to you. Why don't you come down off the soapbox and just have a talk with Him? Christ is waiting for you to make that move, you can have what Christians have if you want it. You are worth that sacrifice He made. God bless you.
Ok, this was in the old testiment were the jews had to keep themselves(ordered by God) pure. Before christ fuffiled the jewish law this had to be done. The Jews had to be kept pure from their enimies until the time of christ. The sons of Amalek were evil and God destroying pagans that were set to destroy the jews. God had been the protecter of his people but often times because of the disobedience of the jews because they mixed with the many tribes suffered consequences.
I often times get confused myself, but God does not destroy people just for the sake of genocide. If you read the flood in noahs time, people consider that to be genoside but God saved Noah and his family because their hearts were not evil but pure before God. The people who were destroyed were given chances upon chances to believe God and repent but because of the wickedness of their hearts God who is o patient like he did probably warn the people of Amalek knew that they would not turn their hearts.
You have to understand that the Jews have been chosen and though things are silent in Isreal they still have the covenant kept between God and Abraham that he would protect his people.
He condemn Amalek who oppressed Israel. Deu 25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt; Deu 25:18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God.
Amalek attacked Israel from behind where the weakest were. The old and frail. They were going to destroy Israel while they were tired from their long march. This was evil in GOD's eye even more evil then Egypt who forced the people into slavery and to stop them from growing as a nation killed all the male children.
So GOD destroyed the whole nation of Amalek as he destroyed the whole nation of Sodom and Gomorrah for their wickedness. As he will destroy the wickedness of all those who forget GOD.
Psa 94:23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.
Pro 21:12 The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.
Probably, the reason you don't get an answer is you don't like the ones you get. You have judged the answers before you get them. That seems to put some folks off a bit.
Amalek was a leader of a group of people. All of these people (including the Jews) are Palestinian. True genocide would have involved wiping themselves out.
God commanded the Jews to wipe out a group that posed a mortal threat to the Jewish people. We still do that today. We call it war. So did they.