Why did god tell the Jews he’s one, then change his mind 1000 years later tell Christians he’s a trinity?
It doesn't make sense, This proves how illogical and absurd that theory is.
Yea, some of you seem more confused than you know.
It doesn't make sense, This proves how illogical and absurd that theory is.
Yea, some of you seem more confused than you know.
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The teachings of the Church contradict the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and that is the cause of the confusion.
If a sincere christian who wants to follow Jesus (peace be upon him), asks priests about trinity, the answer that he gets is "It is a Mystery, not explained by Jesus (pbuh) clearly", at that time again those forget that Jesus (pbuh) said,
"I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing" (John 18:20 (NKJ)).
If trinity is confusing enough to be called a mystery, it cannot be from God. Because:
"God is not a God of confusion."—1 Corinthians 14:33, Revised Standard Version (RS).
There was no mystery in the message of Jesus (pbuh), nothing secret. Will you accept the priests' so called "mystery of trinity" and forget clear commandments of Jesus (pbuh)?
Jesus (pbuh) clearly said:
A) Mark 12:29: "the Lord our God, the lord is One".
B) Metthew: 26:39: "He went a little farther and fell on His face and prayed" (Following Jesus (pbuh) way is following what he did). Jesus (pbuh) prayed to one God
C) Matthew 4:10 "You shall worship the Lord, your God, and him only you shall serve"
D) John 5:19: "Most truly I say to you, the son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative but only what he beholds the father doing."
E) John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
F) Matthew 27:46: "Eloi (Allah?) , Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
(G)Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: John 8:54
The trinity is a doctrine from about the year 325 AD, It has its roots in polytheism, It is not in the bible unless you really, really stretch it to fit. Jesus didn't have to hide the concept of trinity if it were the basis of salvation.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia - 1967, VOL. XIV, PAGE 299:
The formulation "one God in three Persons" was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, PRIOR TO THE END OF THE 4TH CENTURY. But it is precisely this formulation that first claimed to title "The Trinitarian Dogma. AMONG THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS, THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING SUCH A MENTALITY OR PERSPECTIVE.
You should not accept the word “son” literally . Word "son" was used in bible for general human beings and other prophets also. "we all are the children of father in heavens" indicates that word "son" was used in different meaning of love and care. Mathew: 5:9. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.”
Jesus , Moses, Mohammad (peace be upon them), they all worshiped the same God, the God of Ibrahim (pbuh). All prophets taught "surrendering one's will to God" that is the meaning of word "Islam". JAMES 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Muslims love Jesus (pbuh), they believe in his miraculous birth with the will of God without a father or sexual act (the way Adam was born without a mother and father), , they believe in miracles that Jesus (pbuh) performed with permission of God, muslims faith demands them to believe Jesus (pbuh) was a great prophet of God and belief in the original message of Jesus (pbuh) the massaya.
There was just not one holy book sent by God on earth through His messengers. The last testiment "Quran" had to be there from the same source, revealed to the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), an illiterate person who didn't know how to read or write) some 600 years after Jesus (pbuh) corrects the errors that crept (knowingly or unknowingly) into the message that Jesus (pbuh) brought. Unlike Bible that was written after decades after Jesus by people who never met Jesus, this book was not preserved on paper or in one church but in hearts of thousands of muslims who memorised Quran word by word the way it was revealved. Quran should prove to be a very valuable asset to both Muslims and Christians.
Quran: [4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus (pbuh), the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, "Trinity." You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master. [5:73] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is a third of a trinity. There is no god except the one god. Unless they refrain from saying this, those who disbelieve among them will incur a painful retribution.
Jeffrey
I thought G-d didn't make mistakes?
In the Jewish Bible, G-d says "I am that I am." Jews have interpreted this and other passages to mean that G-d is indivisible in any way. No parts., no fathers and sons, no persons, etc.
G-d is a single being that cannot be broken down in to any number of parts.
After the death of Jesus, a group of men made a decision that G-d was in fact a Trinity. So Christians leaders made a decision, not G-d. This was done at the council of Nicea, hundreds of years after the death of Jesus!
That is the reason that all non-Christians feel that Christianity is really Polytheistic, rather than monotheistic, like Judaism, and Islam.
Enjoy,
Jeffrey
Anonymous
dude.. no.. lol you're like all messed up in the head.. first of all even with the jews the trinity was displayed.. God of course, the Father, talked to Moses right? well then The Angel of God, which back then was Jesus, just not Jesus in the flesh yet (Angel of God appered to Joshua) and the holy spirit, many places..
the trinity has always been..
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Jesus didn't say that, the bible refers to the Father, Son and Holy spirit. Over time the word trinity was adopted to say all 3.
Rossonero NorCal SFECU
Despite the trinity, he is still one. This is because of his miraculous power and abiility to do things human logic can't understand. A better question might be why God could do miracles until muhammad came around, then he suddenly lost the ability.