Report: Ex-Gitmo detainee joins al-Qaida in Yemen?
Do you still back Obama for releasing suspected terrorists and closing Gitmo?
CAIRO, Egypt – A Saudi man released from Guantanamo after spending nearly six years inside the U.S. prison camp is now the No. 2 of Yemen's al-Qaida branch, according to a purported Internet statement from the terror network.
LS.. No need for bashing. I wanted to know if you all still back Obama's decision to let these men go to terrorize again. I comprehend and see much more than you realize.
2009-01-23T15:04:11Z
You all don't get it. I didn't say anything about torturing these men. Do I have to simplify this? Ok, here goes, realllll slowww, so that you might understand. IS IT WISE TO LET THESE MEN GO TO TERRORIZE AGAIN??? Get it now? I don't want to hear remarks abour torture, which waterboarding isn't much torture if you'll check into it, but that is not the question.
Annie2009-01-23T14:59:19Z
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as you can tell by most of the answers you are getting, people still do not see, I am not sure if they refuse or just do not want to see, but none the less.... when one of them are looking down the barrel of a gun that belongs to one of those guys, I wonder who will they call on to protect them then ?? When we start patting people on the back, or spanking their hands and saying *bad little boy. you gotta play nice*, then that is what we will get ..... we will be the ones with the chains around our ankles and our limbs missing for not worshiping by their standards..... when people are forced to bow before a man I want to hear them cry and moan and groan then.... do we get to say *I told ya so ?* we could, but I for one will refrain from saying it..... *sigh*..... go in peace...... God bless
Did it not occur to you that perhaps he joined al Qaeda because we as a whole confirmed what he had been told about us?
That we are monsters out to destroy their way of life. Well when we captured him and tortured him, we only CONFIRMED that assessment. If we had acted with American morality, which would NEVER allow for torture, then he would have seen us for the good people we are and that we want to help his country.
CIA interrogators have already said that those who were not tortured, but instead were treated with the dignity that we accord all living beings (per the Declaration of Independence), then see that we are not the monsters that they were told we are. Then they realize that we are there to help their countries, to free their countries; and then they begin to realize that helping us is helping themselves.
And then they give us the info we need to protect ourselves and their home countries.
You are trying to use this as an attack on Obama, but in reality it shows just how badly Bush's ideas have failed. Bush's actions throughout the world and right here at home have created far more enemies for us; not protected us.
I absolutely back Obama for releasing SUSPECTED terrorists (some of whom have already been proven innocent and many more who still deserve the chance to do so); especially since he is doing it so responsibly.
We are NOT the Soviet Union. This is America, and in America we treat people with the respect they deserve as sons and daughters of God and our brothers and sisters. We have a morality, and we WILL hold to it.
To do otherwise would make us the terrorists, and we would be the ones who destroyed America. We would have done their job for them. This is a FREE society, and we WILL keep it that way; because we don't deserve to exist otherwise.
I agree that many if not most will revert to their old ways after being released and those that were not terrorists may become one because of the mistreatment they received. While I do not believe in torture or abuse I can understand that it may often be a necessary evil to ascertain the truth. I believe they could have used the sodium chloride to get faster results, as I have seen it work well in the past. I also believe that those released should be kept under close surveillance for at least a year. (See my question on the detainees) I think they should be tagged for the purpose of possibly leading us to other terrorist groups.
Waterboarding IS torture. And if you want to argue that it is not, then you will have to explain how executing those Japanese officials after World War II for having used it on American POWs is not a war crime.
We either committed war crimes then (murdering Japanese officials who had done nothing wrong), or we committed war crimes under Bush (waterboarding is torture and we did it). Up to you which one you want to go with, but one needs to be explained.
And if your only problem with what Obama is doing in terms of closing Guantanamo Bay is that he is "releasing" terrorist, then relax. He is not.
He is closing the facility, but not releasing the current inhabitants. He is giving them trials, so that we can separate out the innocent ones and the guilty ones; and then properly incarcerate the guilty ones.
He is only stopping the torture. And we did torture there. In fact, a doctor working for the Bush Administration would not recommend one individual for trial because she said that what was done to him did amount to torture (even under Bush's rules, which were quite lax when compared to both International Law and what was once American law).
Bush wasn't forced to let him go because of "idiotic liberal lawsuits". Bush had to let him go because his own illegal policies ensured that a case could not be made that would hold up in court. It has been the ILLEGAL practices of extraordinary rendition, unlawful detainment and torture that have circumvented and prevented justice. The legal process is derailed when illegal practices are used. Only when the illegal practices are halted can they be legally prosecuted.