Classical music section, wanna have some fun?

Then go to you tube and listen (for as long as you can stand it) to "Bella's Lullaby" and then to "A River Flows In You".

You will notice right away that they are the same piece. But what is a real riot is to read the commentary -- these people don't even REALIZE IT"S THE SAME PIECE -- if it weren't so pathetic it would be hilarious.

So now we have two pieces of music, one "by" Carter Burwell" and one "by" Yiruma -- my question is..

Who is the original guilty party? Do we go after them both or just the original perpetrator?

2009-03-21T12:32:06Z

Aha!! So now it's case of the blind leading the blind -- ME, being ignorat of this music, and them, confusing one with the other WHEN THER INDEED ARE VERY.

Well, sheeee-it as they say in Texas.

Now who's a fool?

2009-03-21T12:33:01Z

Meant ot write "When they indeed are very different" -- but I'm blind, so .....

del_icious_manager2009-03-21T10:40:56Z

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There is a lot of confusion over this. This is because, originally, 'Bella's Lullaby' in the film 'Twilight' was supposed to have been Yiruma's 'River Flows in You' but was replaced by the piece by Carter Burwell. So, they ARE different pieces (link to the Burwell below). You will hear straight away that it is not 'River Flows in You'.

No matter, though - they are both crap.

I'm rather ashamed I knew that!

Jack Herring2009-03-21T18:24:48Z

After hearing about Bella's Lullaby and A river Flows In You for months now, this question has prompted me to actually go to youtube and listen to them.

After listening to both of them I will say this: If I ever hear either one of them again, it will be too soon.

del_icio your link is particularly disturbing. If I was Burwell, I would be embarrassed to put my name on something like this. To call this a composition is a joke and a bad joke at that.

I am guessing that Yiruma is credited with composing of "A River Flows?" Typical of many of the world compositions I hear at festivals. The music has no direction and rambles endlessly, but he probably makes more money than I do.

Are these two pieces just instrumentals or do they also have lyrics? I am askng because everyone calls them songs. I know Dr. John likes opera, do you think maybe we can get him to write some lyrics to these pieces?

EDIT: I guess Dr. John is off the hook. I. Jones never ceases to amaze me. Such a talent, puts Ira Gershwin to shame.

Schumiszt2009-03-21T17:37:44Z

I'm a little confused...

This is Bella's lullaby, quite an awesome virtuoso playing, on an awesome piano!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qUM9k1A1nU

This is the Yiruma... (once again, played by an "awesome virtuoso" it is a nice piano though... I feel pity for the piano that it has to endure this terrible piece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhN7SG-H-3k

I must say, Bertha's lullaby is simply dissonant! My mom, a classical musician, enjoys the Twilight series. And when she went to see the movie, she was vastly disappointing at the horrible piece! In the book, it was described as "so passionate" and "I can't believe he's playing with two hands" and "it's so lush" and other stuff like that. She envisioned in her head something similar to Schumann's dedication, or the Liszt transcription of it.

That's what you get when you're a classical musician I suppose. Only disappointment...

If I had to listen to either of these two pieces, I supposed I'd have to take the less torturous piece, "A river flows in you." At least its got some less disturbing qualities to it.

Now to purify our minds... [grrr... I couldn't find a satisfactory performance...]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvba55qIEdk

?2009-03-21T19:05:41Z

It's been pointed out that they are indeed different pieces. I don't really care for either one, "Bella" makes me cringe, but I think "River" could get slipped in somewhere and without actively thinking about it, I might not upchuck right there and then. It's biggest problem is that the theme never develops ... it just goes on and on ... and not in a good way.

Ravel's Bolero goes on for half a decade, but the voices change throughout the orchestra. It get's tossed around, and builds from single instruments to sections all the way to the climax.

Similarly, Pachelbel's Canon is way over played, but while the chord progression never varies, the melody and counter melodies develop over the course of the music.

"River", on the other hand, is just the same simple chord progression over and over and over again. It has all the earmarks of a piece of music that "wants" to be played poorly.

[Edit -- For Jack H and Dr. John]
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk206/ijones_bucket/BellasLullabysong.png

Doctor John2009-03-21T17:55:26Z

You are confusing me with someone who gives a ****

[ EDIT]
Jack H....that could be classified as.mental cruelty .