about ponds being stocked by birds.?

l have noticed here recently, a number of mis-informed individuals explaining how their pond was stocked by firds carrying eggs in on their feet.
once the eggs are in place, who makes the nest?
who cares for the eggs and keeps them clean and keeps predators away?
who guards the fry and also guards them from predators (including birds)?
please back up these claims with some kind of evidence other than "my grampa tole me".
l have googled and yahoo'd for days now and have found no evidence supporting these claims. they are at face value, ridiculous and those that believe these fairy tales need to have a reality check.
c'mon...l'm open to all realistic responses with some kind of back up.

2009-04-20T18:16:25Z

what species of salmon do you have in your pond, pedro?

2009-04-20T18:20:09Z

thanks, gimme... frogs can migrate overland. not so easy for bass. a relative's 1/4 acre pond in missouri 15 years after it was built still had the same 1/2 dozen catfish in it. nothing else except those same magic frogs.

2009-04-20T18:23:11Z

dead cats... l've carried a bucket or two myself... those were the only ones l ever found there since.

2009-04-20T18:29:19Z

fisher king... l expected better from you. don't you have any idea how golden trout were spread through the sierras? originally by Men With Buckets. by mule and horseback. over a hundred years ago.
you build a pond on the back forty in missouri or kansas, you go to the neighbor's pond and borrow a few bass and sunfish. same as he did and everyone before him.
no magic involved.

2009-04-20T18:32:14Z

and that osprey has starved himself to death by now. you know the damage their claws and beak can do to a fish? especially getting hit at 60 mph?

2009-04-20T19:23:27Z

yeah, chuck... my grampa told me fish do that in mexico too. he's from there. l almost believed him... then he told me about chupacabra...

2009-04-20T21:00:41Z

steve... nothing here about any birds being the culprits. this goes on across the US. birds have never been scientifically proven to move fish. all instances have been conjecture and hearsay.
http://fwp.mt.gov/fishing/etiquette/bucketbio.html

2009-04-20T23:00:33Z

hey, Grand Master... l like that tornado suggestion.
also reminds me of when my grampa tole me he seen a big flock of wild geese froze into a pond once. they flew off with it. mighta carried minnows and other fish in it.

2009-04-21T17:03:51Z

thanks, chimp. l could care less, myself. it's just l've seen several other answers/questions with people absolutely certain a duck carried them in. l have enough intelligence to figure some things out myself.
and l also know that most of these questions/answers are from 6 to 12 year olds. you can read "tooth fairy" in a lot of these writings.

Grand Master BasserĀ®2009-04-20T21:22:53Z

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This is a great question, I might have to star it! Really gets the juices flowing. It seems a little early for me to answer it just yet, mostly idiots. I want to wait and see what other people have to say about the "flight of the cosmic fish egg."

People used to think years ago that horsehair turned into eels and fishes. And they also used to think the world was flat. Maybe tornadoes could have moved them? No, no way. Although Dorothy's house did move somewhere, too. Hmm.

Ok, this seems good for now. I'll wait for another Einstein to answer.

Chimp Dancer2009-04-21T16:26:53Z

I think you're reading too much into the whole scenario and perhaps omitting a few facts. Who give's a shhhh-- where the fish came from, they're there so what the hell are you going off for when you can get a rod and reel and give a few fish free lip piercings? You're basically asking which came first, the fish or the egg? There are many variables to consider and science isn't an exact absolute to anything but a best guess. We all know that.
What facts? location, proximity to nearby waters, weather, flooding, human transport, indirect human or animal transport, egg casing thickness, parasitic, non parasitic, digestive tracts of avian, mammal or reptilian and the acidity in relation to eggs species of fish. I can go on and on and on. It'll be 7-11 24-7 up in here and I won't even lose sleep!
What I'm saying Bass, is that everything holds true to a limit without a doubt, science is not an absolute answer and the more you look into to it, the farther from the truth you'll be. ~good luck catchin'.

steve s2009-04-21T02:59:24Z

I have seen two ponds stocked by hitchhiking back home in La. Fisher king is correct about the fish eggs attaching or sticking to the legs of water birds. Blue herings or sand-hill cranes were pretty much all around these areas. My friend had 2 ponds on his property, one good sized pond about 1/2 an acre and the other just a small dig out for clay material that filled up with rain water. Private property, no tress-passing signs everywhere with several mean dogs around somewhere. About 2 miles up the road are catfish and freshwater shrimp farms. Both ponds have shrimp and catfish in them now. The only thing around those ponds are the cranes and herrings, and a levey is located between the farms and the outskirts of the town where he lives so flooding did not migrate the fish to his ponds that way. I have known about this for many years of how eggs can be transported by birds, told to me by folks that were trying to teach me things not ******** me. 40yr exp

pedro2009-04-20T07:18:44Z

" The Method of Exclusion"
"It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." p315, The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet.

Birds digestive systems are not perfect. They may just be passing the fertile eggs through at their rest stops.

More probable than falling from the clouds or spontaneous creation. Habitat is precious; species will find it, if suitable and within their ability to reach.

edit;
Plenty of creatures need only a handful to survive in a place. Some die, are eaten, or never mate. Your question doesn't state the species in question, but there are many fish that need no care from adults. Salmon come to mind.
(embarrassed) Salmon are obviously a poor example, sir. Yet, if not a chance plunge from a bird, proving a negative is beyond my conversational ability.

Dead_Cats_inc.2009-04-20T08:28:59Z

Many species of fish lay their eggs without really building a nest and then get the hell outta dodge so if the fish that showed up in the pond are members of those species then it is a slim possibility that they cloud have been brought in stuck to the feet or feathers of birds. However most likely when weird species start showing up it's because some numb skull ( possibly trespassing) started playing johnny appleseed with his minnow bucket. We are starting to get a real nice goldfish population in some of our streams here in Kentucky and I guarantee they didn't come riding in as eggs on some birds.

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