To all my friends who sincerely disagree with evolution -?

Is it important to actually read the material before you become confrontational? Have you ever read anything by Darwin? Gould? Wade? Shubin? Does it make sense to understand what you are disagreeing with? Or do you interpret evolution primarily as it is presented to you by others?

I do mean friends. I have no animosity toward any of you, although I must admit that I have minimal patience for intentional ignorance or for feigned knowledge.

2009-08-29T18:54:12Z

Well - that was quite a spectrum of responses. 17 responses total, but only 6 who think that evolution is false. I suspect that there are a lot more out there who did not answer. Of the 6 who disagree with Darwin, only 1 has read his work to a level higher than a "modicum." One other has read a "modicum" and appears to understand it, although he is sort of on the fence in terms of its general applicability. The general response of those who disagree but have not read what they disagree with is that it's not worth reading or that the question should be turned around so that I am on the defensive for not reading creationist material (which is not true, i have read):

1. the Bible - I found it inspirational. However, all references to scientific topics correspond roughly to a normal 2nd grade level. This makes sense, since it was written centuries ago by people with absolutely no knowledge of the natural world.

2009-08-29T19:17:34Z

On the other side, there are at least a couple of folks who seem to be just generally and firmly prejudiced against those who do not agree with evolution. One of these was downright offensive in his remarks. This is clearly not a way to influence people, regardless of your viewpoint. Seems counter-productive to me.

Thanks to all for your considered responses. i think I found my answer.

2009-08-29T19:18:33Z

2. Phillip Johnson - I found his positions to be strange and bizarre and justifiable only by referring to scriptural texts. He has no scientific background, and it shows.

3. Several documents published by the Answers in Genesis organization - I found their positions to be equally strange and poorly justified. I could give 3 pages of examples, but that is not my purpose here.

The other referenced creationist experts are guys I am not familiar with.

In any case, most of the folks who have not read Darwin do not generally come out and say that. Instead, they try to deflect the negative connotation that this may bring by attempting to make a positive statement about their own belief system, or by trying to make me look bad instead. Interesting.

2009-08-29T19:28:09Z

Please forgive the lack of order in this series. The comments are not appearing in the order that I typed them.

Anonymous2009-08-29T08:58:10Z

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I have read modicums from "Origin of the Species." I agree with many of Darwin's observations. They were intelligent ones. I agree with microevolution. I am not sure about macroevolution. Water into wine? Apes and man came from a similar simian ancestor? I don't know about that. I am skeptical. Does this make me a heretic (of science)?

To me, the metamorphosis from a simian ancestor into modern man (even if provided with billions of years for evolution to work out) seems like a miraculous transformation to me. Water into wine.

Sure, humans are mutagenic. Yes, evolution, at least on a small scale, is a fact. But evolution cannot perform miracles. It can tinker with already existing DNA, but it cannot change one species into another in my view.

Bruce2009-08-29T16:11:36Z

I've read Darwin and Gould, but I've also read those who take a critical view of Darwinism, including Phillip Johnson, Michael Behe, Jonathan Wells, and Tom Bethell. Have any Darwinists read any opposing views?

Frankly, it is vitally important to read the critical evidence against Darwinism because it has been censored in schools. Anyone who discusses the inadequacies of Darwin's 19th century speculation (e.g., the Cambrian explosion) is censored, pilloried, and subjected to vocational persecution. If the Darwinist claims had the overwhelming support that proponents claim, why do Darwinists beat down the opposition?

Cheers,
Bruce

ominousone82009-08-29T16:30:11Z

You CAN NOT "disagree" with evolution. NO ONE believes nor disbelieves in evolution. This is the most arrogant, ******* idiotic thing i've ever heard. Evolution is a FACT. Supported by millions of pieces of evidence and 200 years of research. If you doubt the FACT of evolution then you need to go jump of a bridge, after all, gravity is "just a theory" too, ******* dumbass Christians.

PaulCyp2009-08-29T15:55:57Z

There is plenty of basic information available. When I want to debate a topic, I first try to learn as much about it as possible, so I don't give the appearance of complete ignorance in what I say. There is plenty of good information readily available on this scientific topic. For example ...

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/

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?2009-08-29T16:03:43Z

When i was a Christian and would study apologetics i would read up from solely Christan sources..

now, re-reviewing the works...the peer reviews do not concur and many are invalid, yes that last fact seems to be constantly forgotten.

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