Christians: Do you think the US was founded as a Christian nation?
Many American Christians I've faced claim so. Maybe you don't, but that doesn't change the fact that many Christians do.
For those who think so, there are several instances where the founding fathers contradict this statement, I will provide one statement from the Treaty of Tripoli, which in article 11 states:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Anonymous2009-09-26T07:28:43Z
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The US was founded as a secular constitutional republic.
Frankly, the founders that were christians (many of them were, though not all by any means) put today's christians to shame. Despite living in a time when most people around them were christians, and living in a much less informed age, they *still* courageously founded a nation that explicitly guaranteed in its constitution freedom of religious thought for all, and guaranteed that their government would not endorse or promote any one religion. Many of today's christians want to stuff their own particular sect into government whenever possible, in violation of the constitution -- they clearly don't have the wisdom that the founders did, who understood that keeping religion out of government in all forms was the only way to guarantee religious freedom for all.
The treaty of tripoli was a carefully worded document that was written not as a Christian but as citizens of a sovereign nation. So as to not make the issue a religious one between Islamic pirates and the Christians who infact were Americans..
Seems to me that even then Americans were careful to not offend the sensibilities of hostile Muslims...
No. Not at first. America's forefathers who many were Freemasons based and modeled America's new judicial laws after their God Yahweh's Mosaic Laws and Ten Commandments. The Freemasons originated from the twelve tribes of Israel after they were freed as slaves of Egypt by Yahweh and Moses. They built The Tabernacle and later the Temples such as King Solomon's Temple. So America was founded on laws from the same God as Christens, the God Yahweh.
It was founded by (mostly) rich land owners and businessmen. They went along with the status-quo and subscribed to the notion of a creator, but non-denominational.
Religion was important and what was in vogue was Christianity, but the founders wanted a government that wasn't a quasi-Theocracy.
this verse is a lie, intended to contradict what the actual words of the founding fathers said in the 1860's congress officially declared this nation to be a christian nation.
so who ever wrote this statement was a group of liars in order to make a treaty that was in itself illegal. just like the G20 summit and pres Obamma