You claim there is no proof that God exists. Yet there is no proof that he doesn't. What makes you so sure there is no god? What if the world ended tomorrow and God revealed Himself to us? How would that make you feel?
Have you ever considered the fact that an eternity is a very, very, very long time? If the Lord is real and there is a chance that you could wind up in heaven or hell for all eternity... do you think it would be "safer" to consider the possibilities of that being true... and dig a little deeper into understanding of the possibility of faith... rather than dismissing it?
Why or why not?
If you can not answer respectfully, please do not answer. I wholeheartedly believe in God and am not calling you names or making fun of you for not, so please do not get nasty with me in that way. I am just trying to better understand your viewpoint and to give you something to think about.
Aunt Acid2010-10-10T12:55:50Z
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I'm not an Atheist, but i would like to share something.....Although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine. It teaches a philosophy of life and an attitude toward God. Its beliefs are subtly attractive to mankind’s selfish, independent tendencies. The doctrine of evolution attracts many people who want to appear wise, this is why they call Christians "retards" and such..Many atheists insist that if you are educated and intelligent, you must accept the theory of evolution as fact. On the other side are some equally overbearing religionists who use emotionally charged rhetoric to say that if you have genuine faith, you must agree with" their" brand of creationism.
These extremist viewpoints alienate many reasonable people.The question of God's existence deserves better than smug, dogmatic assertions.
Still Crazy After All These Years2010-10-10T12:08:09Z
Have you ever heard of Pascal's Wager? How am I supposed to answer this when I have no idea what I would do if that happened because I can't even imagine it? Some people are just not capable of belief or faith without any evidence (note that I did not say "proof" - I said "evidence") for that belief. I actually remember the first time I questioned the idea of God - I was 7 years old and we had just left the synagogue after the services. I asked my Dad - "How is it possible for some big man to live in the sky and we can't see or hear him? Why doesn't this guy talk to people now like he was purported to do ages ago?" From then on, I was not a believer and 56 years later, I'm still not a believer. But even if I was, I wouldn't believe in the insecure, vengeful, and demanding entity that Western society has come up with.
I don't see all this as anything more than you wagging your finger at the poor, benighted atheists who don't see things like yu do.
Then the entire cosmos is one big freakin joke, with an incompetent barbarian at the wheel and I just don't give a sh!t then.
Edit: Have you ever considered an eternity is a long, long, long time? You would be able to do everything conceivable a bazzillion, quaudrillion, googleplex to the googalplex times over again until there was nothing new to see or even think. Everything would become as trivial as twiddling your thumbs forever. I know, you don't think that deep, but some people do. Have you ever considered that there were "wars in heaven" (so the story says) and angels have fallen from grace? Do you really think you can be on your best behavior for all eternity? What if heaven is imaginary and you are only wasting valuable time in the only life you will ever get?
Edit: So when are you going to start believing in Thor? There's no proof he doesn't exist and his wrath is at least that of your God. You are going to be busy, there's one "hell" of a lot of gods out there. Good luck.
You sound hysterically frightened, like a child consumed with fear because the closet monster might just be there when the lights go out. Why are you so eager to spread that fear? Why does it frustrate you so that you can huff and puff and rant and rave, but you'll never make me afraid of this god nonsense? Dig deeper? I was a theist for most of my life. I've been Christian. There is nothing deeper. Scratch the surface of Christianity and you've hit bottom.
I don't claim there is no evidence, I state it as a fact. There is no evidence of any god. No negative can be proven. You might as well be arguing for the existence of leprechauns.
My advice to you is to get in the closet and under the bed and explore. Do some research into this faith of yours and find out what flimsy little lies it is based on. I'm not being rude. There is no gentle way to put this: you've been duped.
So you are proposing Pascal's Wager I take it? There are several problems with Pascal's Wager that make it an ineffective argument. First and foremost I think, It assumes a false dichotomy. It ignores the possibility of the hundreds of thousands of other gods people have or will ever believe in. What if a god exists and it is actually the one that Radical Muslims describe?
If your god is going to punish me for an eternity for using my mind, for evaluating the world I live in and coming to a conclusion, then I will accept it because your god isn't a just one. It is an egotistical entity that values blind obedience over free thought. Don't worry, it isn't the only god to do so.
If you have any actual reasons or any evidence that you think suggests that a god (any god) exists then I will listen but if your best argument is "well what if my god, out of the millions throughout history, exists..." then we don't have much else to talk about.