Are there any openly gay persons that disagree with civil unions/gay marriage?
Illinois is the newest state to permit civil unions between same sex couples. According to one article many people lined up early this morning to obtain their civil union licenses(http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8163881&rss=rss-wls-article-8163881). Now, it is no question that there are those who strongly oppose gay marriage/civil unions and I am curious to know if there are any gay persons who also either oppose or strongly oppose it as well?
If so, can you state why (as a gay person) that you oppose gay marriage/civil unions?
2011-06-01T09:43:15Z
Hey William, I know this may be a little off topic, but it seems you have taken a very strong stance against "Christians" even if it is against your better judgement. Why do you feel the way you do about "Christians"?
Esprix2011-06-01T10:23:03Z
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There was a point early in the gay rights movement (60's/70's) when the majority of gays and lesbians looked at marriage as both unattainable and undesirable - there was a movement to create our own community based on our own rules, and marriage was considered "buying into heterosexual norms," when what we were seeking was freedom to be ourselves. (This was very much in alignment with the 60's counterculture and sexual revolution of the time.)
As the movement matured, so did attitudes about what, exactly, constituted both gay rights and freedom, and in time the movement changed to be equal to and on par with the societal institutions as they stood, as opposed to creating our own. Nowadays there are no doubt some gay men and lesbians that do not support same sex marriage on any level, but often it's because they believe marriage as an institution is inherently flawed and ought to be done away with entirely from a governmental standpoint for everyone, including existing heterosexual couples. That idea, though, is still pretty radical by today's standards, and in general doesn't jive with the prevailing fight for marriage equality.
Some people, both gay and straight, don't believe marriage should be a legal institution and that by making it so we are allowing the government to intrude on an aspect of our lives that it has not business in.
Some of these individuals support civil unions for everyone, including heterosexual couples, and leaving "marriage" as a purely social and religious institution without any government involvement.
interior the unique blue rules for the Colony of recent Haven (what grew to strengthen into Connecticut) drawn up in 1665 it states: "No gospel Minister shall connect human beings in marriage; the magistrates purely shall connect in marriage, as they could do it with much less scandal to Christ's Church." Now the blue rules have been comprised via Gov. Theophilus Eaton via the Rev. John Cotton. faith even then found out that marriage replaced right into a criminal state and not inevitably a non secular one. Connecticut realizes to no longer supply marriage to all is discrimination that's why we are between the few states the place comparable intercourse marriage is criminal.
Hey, in any group of people, you'll find someone who opposes anything.
Some gays and lesbians see marriage as a hetero institution and don't want any part of it; some think there are other issues that are more important.
I think marriage equality is so important that I've moved to Canada with my wife. And you don't realize how oppressive the US is until you're outside it.
I actually discussed this issue with a classmate of mine just last night! She said something that made it seem as though she thought that all gays acted/believed the same way. As a gay guy, I can assure you that we certainly do not. Not all of us even like each other, trust me! We don't all act the same; we don't dress the same; we don't speak the same, and we certainly don't all have the same political opinions.
I think whenever people don't really know a lot of a certain group of people, they learn something about one of them and think it applies to all of the people who constitute that particular group. That's kind of happening with Muslims now. People are afraid of them; they aren't acquainted with many of them at all, so you hear silly things like, "The Muslims do this, the Muslims do that, etc." These kinds of assumptions always turn out to be silly.