Should it be possible for the Cy Young and MVP to come from the same mediocre team?

Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw have remarkable numbers, on a playoff team they'd be shoe ins.

Will they, and should they be penalized because their teammates aren't as good as those on teams heading into the post season?

mm1172011-09-25T11:11:33Z

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People don't get that these are individual awards. Its sad that Kemp has to do something that hasn't been done in 70 years (Triple Crown) to even be considered for MVP. He is leading in RBIs, homeruns, OPS, total bases, runs scored. He is 2nd in SB. He is 3 homeruns away from a 40/40 season. He took a team more than 15 game sunder .500 and the Dodgers now have a great shot at finishing above .500. Value shouldn't mean winning. If you put Braun on the Dodgers there is no way they have the same record. It would be worse because the stats show he doesn't produce as much. That shows Kemp has more individual value. Not to mention Braun has protection. Kemp is alone in that lineup and still dominates.

Kershaw should win Cy Young. If he wins today he has the triple crown and will possibly lead MLB in Ks and ERA.

So yes, it should be possible and the best players should get these awards. Bottom line.

DJ2011-09-25T10:18:57Z

The last time a non-playoff team won both the Cy young and the MVP was the 1962 Dodgers. It's hard enough to get 2 players that good and not make it, let alone the bias towards playoff teams. They both deserve it hands-down unfortunately, there is a severe bias. Braun is a contender from what I'm hearing because the Brewers made the playoffs. He only has .AVG over Kemp though, and that is a weak, outdated stat. Kemp is dominating in most if not all other categories over Braun. Kershaw will get the Cy Young no doubt, its Kemp that may be robbed. Although they may both see Triple Crown's at their respective positions.

?2016-11-10T07:53:56Z

correct, no overdue July commerce over to a sparkling league will ever win the MVP, so i'm waiting to't evaluate Ramirez. regardless of his low ordinary, i think of of Ryan Howard now has a incredible shot at winning it. AL MVP. If the Angels had somebody else distinctive than Rodriguez, how plenty extra effective helpful or worse ought to they have fairly carried out? What approximately Nathan or Papelbon, or Soria. the possibility could have besides the shown fact that been there. additionally, if ok-rod did win MVP, how could desire to he no longer fairly be the CY youthful winner too. This one is in basic terms about complicated with the aid of actuality which you're precise, no guy has fairly carried his group. Quentin replaced into there for Chicago, yet with the aid of actuality that his injury, they have carried out functional. Pedroia is having a incredible three hundred and sixty 5 days, yet is he any added helpful than Youkliss?? i think of of the AL MVP will bypass to Justin Morneau. With Cuddyer out for the finished three hundred and sixty 5 days very just about, Delmon youthful forgetting a thank you to hit for ability interior the 1st a million/2, injuries at SS, 3B, Hunter and Santana leaving. it fairly is the extra effective intense lineup of any group that should make the playoffs. it fairly is Morneau for you regardless of the reality that. AL Cy youthful. it will be Lee surely. NL Cy youthful. i think of of you're precise on the money right here with Linecum. 17 wins for a undesirable group, leads the majors in ok's, large era, first value WHIP. plenty for early season Volquez and Webb and pre-season Santana.

Chipmaker Authentic2011-09-25T10:18:10Z

Kemp might.

CYA voting has never been as wrapped up in that "must be from a postseason / contending / winning team" horserot that MVP voting tends to be infested with, so Kershaw will probably encounter little team ranking-based reluctance.

Fungo2011-09-25T10:18:05Z

Hypothetically, they should not be "penalized".
It will all come down to the number of votes each receives - depending on how the voters, as a group, see this.

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