Question about my husband's social security number? (details)?
My husband was born in the US and came to Israel before he was a year old. His mother is American and his father is English. Now he is trying to get citizenship for him and our son (I'm Dutch, so I'm out). We always thought that they get a passport and go to the US for a visit and then they'll be citizens. But now he needs a social security number, and in order to get one he has to pay $100 and wait 6 months... Doesn't that seem a bit weird? I thought social security numbers are a bit like Israeli ID numbers, you get one when you are born or when you immigrate, and that's it. Can someone please explain? We have his birth-certificate, He was born in NY.
going_for_baroque2011-12-08T17:56:56Z
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Citizenship first, then Social Security. Since your husband was born in the US, he is a US citizen. (Pay attention now) In order to transmit citizenship, he must have lived in the US for five years before the children were born. From what you say- he lived outside the US since he was a year old- he can't transmit citizenship unless he begins living in the US and then has more children.
A Social Security number is used to track income and to obtain retirement. They're also used for banking, credit, even driver's license numbers, but mainly for the first two reasons. In order to get an SSAN, Social Security has to be satisfied that the person has a right to live and work, earn money and pay taxes in the USA. US citizens have that right, so your husband can get a SSAN with help from the US consulate or embassy nearest you.
You should know better than to think you can get a passport, go to the US and then "be citizens." You can't *get* a passport unless you're a citizen. As noted, the children aren't citizens. Not trying to seem harsh, but this is pretty basic.
Want to visit? Israelis can visit with very little problem. Ditto a Dutch woman. And a US citizen will have en less problem. If you plan to visit together, you may consider getting visas and avoid the visa waiver ESTA application. Why? Because when CBP sees a Dutch mother with Israeli children arriving with a US husband/father, they'll wonder if the family really intends to return to Israel. Getting a visa will lessen that degree of wonder (aka "suspicion") and make things just a bit easier for you.
A word of caution- if your husband arrives with an Israeli passport and the place of birth on his Israeli passport is "New York," that'll just raise eyebrows and curiosity. Best for him to have his US passport, you and the children some B-2 visas and carry some indication of your economic ties to Israel.
Have absolutely no idea what the $100 is for, unless you're working with a private company who's charging you to fill out forms that you could fill out yourself. The six-month wait seems a bit long, but that's really not necessary for your visit. Your husband only needs a Social Security number if he intends to file taxes. (Comment: IRS would like to see all citizens file taxes, even if they didn't earn a dollar in the US. Just file 1040NR and cite the Israeli taxes he paid. More info from the US consulate.) If all you want is a visit, he doesn't need a Social Security number. If there's any chance that your family ever chooses to relocate to the US, the SSAN will be useful for him. If this happens, all of you will receive expedited immigrant visas, since you're "immediate relatives" of a US citizen.
Sorry your husband's children can't be US citizens right away. Hope this helps. good luck!
What is his immigration repute? From the social safety card notation it looks he isn't a citizen or a everlasting resident. If he used to be a everlasting resident underneath age 18 while his mom naturalized, he additionally grew to be a citizen and might observe for a Certificate of Citizenship. If he entered the US lawfully however isn't a citizen and you're a citizen, you'll be able to petition for him and he can simultaneously observe for everlasting condo and paintings authorization. Info on all this will also be determined at uscis.gov.