Christians who believe a global flood occurred: How do you explain these problems?

1. The ark couldn't possibly have been big enough to fit two each of all the land animals in the world. Some say Noah only had to bring a few kinds of animals and they evolved from there, but the flood was supposedly only about 4000 years ago. That much evolution cannot happen that fast.

2. If even one animal died (disregarding the clean animals that they brought extras of), its species would go extinct, so none of the animals on the ark could have died. Zoos employ far more people to do this kind of work and they still can't ensure no animals will die in an entire year. There's no way Noah's family could have cared for them all on their own.

3. There is not enough water on the planet to cover all landmasses. Feel free to provide any explanation for this, and I will add an additional comment telling you why your theory is impossible (unless you just say God did it by magic). Also, where did it go? Water doesn't just disappear.

4. Noah didn't bring fish on the ark, but many species of fish need specific salt levels in the water to survive. A flood would have caused mass extinctions of fish. Likewise, most plants could not have survived being underwater for the better part of a year. Even their seeds would have died from prolonged exposure to saltwater, rendering the vast majority of plants permanently extinct. Also, some kinds of bacteria can only survive in human or animal hosts. This means that the animals and humans aboard the ark would have to collectively been infected with smallpox, polio, gonorrhea, etc. for those diseases to still exist today.

5. Most of the animal species would have quickly gone extinct in a post-flood world. Again, the plant life would have been devastated, so herbivorous animals would have died quickly. Carnivorous animals would find all of their prey long dead, and if they ate anything that had been on the ark, we wouldn't still have those species. The inhabitants of the ark could not possibly have repopulated the earth.

6. If there was really a worldwide flood, the geological evidence should be everywhere, but there is none. We have ice cores and tree rings that show us thousands of years of geological history, with no disturbances to suggest a year when the earth was covered by water. Studies of the ocean floor also provide no evidence of a flood. Most damning of all, there are civilizations that have been recording history since before the flood. Not only should these have been destroyed in the flood, their historical accounts don't even mention a flood.

There are more problems than this, but these are enough to make my point. Be careful if you're tempted to reply "God could do all of this because he's omnipotent". Why would God have used such an inefficient method of cleansing the earth that would have required him to use so much "magic" just for any life to recover? Surely a perfect god could have done better than this. And why would he have painstakingly covered up the evidence of the flood afterwards? Undeniable evidence of a clearly supernatural flood could have caused thousands, myself included, to convert. That's not consistent with the idea of a god who wants us to know and worship him.

I don't ask this to troll or to try to "convert" you to atheism, but I'm genuinely perplexed as to how anyone could believe this after applying even the slightest bit of critical thought.

2012-04-04T13:21:30Z

@Hootyfladoodey: I want to agree with you, but if we're meant to take the Gospels as an accurate record of Jesus's life on Earth, then we have to believe he talked about the flood as if it really happened (Matthew 24:37-39 for example). And if we don't accept the New Testament as accurate, what reason is there to believe in the divinity of Jesus at all?

@FUN!: Water damage to pyramids doesn't imply a flood at all. Haven't you ever heard of rain? Also, mountains are formed when tectonic plates push the earth up. Sometimes the earth being pushed up is underwater at the time, hence seashells on mountains.

2012-04-04T16:29:37Z

@Darmani: Why are you willing to accept that the Bible is wrong about the date of the flood (keep in mind the flood can be pinpointed to a specific date give or take a couple years, from information in the Bible), but unwilling to believe it got any of the other details wrong? For example, many, if not all, of the problems I've mentioned go away if this was a local flood rather than a global flood. Bible writers weren't aware of lands, people, or animals outside of their region, so they might have perceived a sufficiently large flood as global when it wasn't. This admittedly raises the minor problem of "Why didn't God just tell Noah to leave the area that would be flooded?" but it's not like the way God handled the flood wasn't already ridiculous and unnecessary. For an omnipotent deity, it would be trivial to just fling everyone he wanted to survive one year into the future after the flood had come and gone... No need for an ark at all.

Lilith2012-04-04T13:02:12Z

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Well as my grade school nun used to tell me "you think too much." I tended to keep doing that though and that is probably why I am no longer a Christian.

?2012-04-04T20:54:16Z

1. God / Theories that place the flood at about 4000 years ago are, I believe, inaccurate.
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3. God / Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.
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6. There seems to be disagreements about this. Sea creature fossils on mountain tops, for example. Could be caused by tectonic shifts... but not necessarily. Likewise, there is disagreement that fossilized tree rings show nothing. The current theory seems to be that trees are, no matter what, only a certain year old and never go further, which speaks to a cataclysmic event. Likewise, I'd agree with your point you make later that civilizations seeming to last through the supposed flood date make no sense. But I think the date of the flood as some scholars like to claim is the problem, not that there was therefore no flood.

Brigalow Bloke2012-04-04T20:30:19Z

Sea shells on the highest mountains? Yes, there are in the Himalaya. What about on the mountains that are not quite as high? The Andes perchance? All of them?

Water marks on the pyramids? Where are these water marks? Got any pictures or genuine archaeological reports? Specially any that do not involve Mr R. Wyatt?

The reality of course is that the ark-eologists cannot answer your questions without making a mockery of just about everything in every other field of factual study from archeology to zoology. Every attempt they make to explain it away just raises more impossibilities.

?2012-04-04T20:05:28Z

People often believe this because they were taught this is true and they do not want to be faithless.
It is not necessary to believe that every story is true . The message is to obey God and you will be rewarded. It is a simple enough message without all the fussing over what they did with all the elephant dung. If it happened, wow , that is amazing. If it didn't ,oh well. People sometimes repeat what they heard . It is called oral tradition. God is not the Bible. Jesus is referred to as the Livng Word.

Anonymous2012-04-04T20:15:19Z

Then if your so intelligent, explain the seashells found on the tallest mountain peak, and the water marks on the pyramids. Come on Einstein let's hear it !

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