Finally talking about the BSE, Thoughts?

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The more out in the open it is the better.

Pip, they have to use language which states absolute facts. If they say "x did y" based on one person's report, then x could sue for defamation. At the very least, they could have the article removed. And if it turns out not to be completely accurate, what would be in the news is "x awarded damages over false accusations" - even when much of what was said is true.

But if the fact the journalist states is that someone SAID something happened, that's incontrovertible. It gets to stay out in the open. It can't be challenged in the same way.

Everyone on the wrong side of that article is going to be reading it looking for something they could use as an excuse to have it labelled as inaccurate and taken offline. Journalists have to be really careful with their wording. Everything which is a claim rather than a known fact with incontrovertible evidence has to be presented that way....Show more

I'm really glad to see it too.... I had a brief phone interview with the producer and was quoted in the first yahoo report on this documentary. I mention this because I was so struck with the compassion and sense that Rather and his crew want to point out how morally reprehensible this whole ugly coercion thing was and still can be.

This was also a woman's abuse issue as well as a their children.
We were ALL screwed so royally......Show more

*Aaaaaargh, grinding my teeth at "who say they were forced" and "claims"*

It's good to see articles like this being aired and that mothers have the courage to talk out. I first "got to know" Claudia on adoption.com and I'm glad she does what she does as she surrendered 6 years after me. It helps gives me the strength to keep stating coercion didn't end in the 1970's it was still going on in the 1980's and even happens today. Of course these days it's far more subtle with open adoption being the favourite carrot to dangle....Show more

What gets me is that, even now when these stories are coming to light one after the other, the opinions are not really beginning to change. There is still a consensus that "infertiles are entitled to a child like the others, it's not their fault if they cannot conceive". Also "if you can't afford your child, you shouln't keep it".

The best I found on this forum was "If a girl can get pregnant on a drunken night, why can't gay couples have children, it's not fair". Always pointing out the negative sides of women (drunken) (single) (poor). And forgetting it's not a crime to be able to conceive.

We are in 2012 for F**ck's sake!...Show more

About time!

1.5 million women forced to give up their child is 1.5 million children growing up wrongly believing their real mom did not love them enough to keep them.

This is another form of child abuse....Show more