If God is all-loving, how could he allow eternal suffering to exist?
By the definition of "all-loving", there is no room for hatred or vengeance. Eternal punishment for thought crimes committed during a finite lifetime would be considered cruel and unusual and is hardly fitting of an all-loving being.
2012-08-28T21:06:09Z
@狐☯忠 Fidelis - I know. :-) God is imaginary. I just like asking believers the simple questions that don't make sense.
2012-08-28T21:34:18Z
@Gerri - But then how do you explain this?
Matthew 25:41 KJV "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"
Matthew 25:46 KJV "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
2Thessalonians 1:9 KJV "Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power"
Jude 1:6 KJV "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
Anonymous2012-08-28T20:56:23Z
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He's a faaaaake... like the rest of us. But don't tell anyone I told you.
You are right. That is why the Bible doesn't teach that God will torture anyone. The Bible teaches in Romans 6:23: “The wages sin pays is death.” Therefore, after one’s death, a person is not subject to further punishment for their sins. According to Romans 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.” Also, eternal torment of the wicked is not compatible with God’s personality. For example, Jeremiah 7:31 says: “They [apostate Judeans] have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” If it never came into God’s heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.
To illustration this point: What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing? “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do? Certainly not!
sturdy question. that is the reason i became a universalist till pretty those days. Who is acquainted with, i'd nevertheless pass lower back to being a universalist. that is what i'm attempting to wrap my techniques round: God provides us loose will such as the loose will to reject God (and for this reason actuality, morality, good judgment, and so on.) If God respects our selections, then those who desire atheism receives it. Atheism is the completed absence of God. without God there is not any peace or justice or good judgment, and it won't be able to be annihilation simply by the indisputable fact that ought to a minimum of convey peace and there won't be able to be peace without God. Hell is carefully become independent from God, and so morality does no longer stick with to it. God loves each and every man or woman, yet those who need an section the position there is not any God are all alone. i wager you should claim its like letting a daughter marry an finished jerk. perchance there aren't any actual atheists, in basic terms perplexed pantheists. perchance letting someone pick atheism is like giving your daughter a round sq.. if so, Hell is in basic terms an extremely vast round sq.. no matter if it really is incorrect to provide human beings such finished loose decision, and Hell is actual, that does no longer recommend that God is hateful or offended, in problem-free words that God isn't all-efficient. no matter if atheism is a round sq., or it really is actual, or eternal torment is actual and God isn't efficient adequate to maintain each and every man or woman, God nevertheless loves each and every man or woman. Edit: Hell isn't a punishment. Punishment is to staggering action. No figure ought to punish their babies continually no count number what they do incorrect. The question is, in case your daughter needs to under no circumstances see you again, and also you recognize meaning she will be able to probable get into undesirable hassle, does a loving figure contradict her desires? perchance you do. i ought to pass both way in this.
You consider sin finite cus we are finite and we sin against finite creatures. But God is infinite and sins commited against Him are infinite and as bad as treason and murder and rape. For 1 act of treason get you death penalty or banishment. Why do you think a human king can kill the body forever but the jKing of kings and Lord of Lords can't punish the soul.
The punishment its eternal cuz its vomited against a eternal being that MADE US perfect and was nothing but awesome to us never sin against us.
btw about LOVE, love is just God is all living but He is also all just and judge of the universe. if I say I love you and someone rapes you and I let him get away Scott free I don't love you. and love must love itself if I let you sin against me and get away with it that's not loving myself. God is justice just as much as he is love. but He delights and prefers love Bible says mercy before the judgement. that's why in His love while we were still His enemies he sent Jesus to die and be or scapegoat for us. Jesus is God. God died for you so you don't have to take the judgement that He will give you. We sinned wages of sin is death.
Besides theres ONLY two places to go heaven with God or hell apart from God. If you wanna be apart from God thats the only place to go. You CANNOT expect God to give you all the gifts He gives you ( light water food money job lover family socialization thought reason existence every breathe and heart beat etc all good things come from God) and you just keep on spitting in His face and rejecting and insulting Him
He won't do that for you thats not just for Him. He has feelings He has rights that surpass your rights. He can be hurt.