Have Google's claims ever been proven?

Google claims to have quality detection algorithms -- panda -- which they use to penalize web sites in the search engine rankings and so forth. But nobody seems to have any hard evidence that this is true. Only claims and hear-say. Are we all victims of Google's "Big Lie" ???

2013-01-08T06:00:17Z

@ Peanut Butter . . . NO, we're talking about proving if Panda actually works the way they say it does. Have Google's claims been substantiated?

2013-01-08T09:22:25Z

@ Duncan ... NO, they're still merely hear-say, and do not offer any hard evidence. Both are still masked in the claimant's "opinion" and/or suppositions.

The Search Engine Watch article is not believable. Much of the account leaves a lot to be imagined. Like did they REALLY generate 200 web sites each with 150 pages of "quality" content???? That one is near unbelievable.

CNet's test prooved nothing. That is not "hard evidence" . . .

Besides, we're more interested in Penguin.

2013-01-09T06:34:18Z

TO BRAVEHEA ...

Yes, we've been in web development since the mid 1980s, having also been an original forum developer for America Online (AOL) and eWorld, before graphical interface browsers.

You did not answer the question, nor offer tangible evidence beyond hearsay. To be correct, you should have cited specific examples that could be validated.

The sites that got devaluated could have been so because of many other reasons other than a new "Penguin" . . . they could have been targeted by Google all along, or intentionally devaluated because they were making too much AdSense revenue, or were usurping the rankings of a "favored" advertiser of Google. At the time of the launch, when you say so many were devalued, we were watching, and many of the resulting sites DID NOT COMPLY TO PENGUIN RANTIONALLE ... so, in other words, Penguin did not devalue them because of the "published" function of Panguin

braveheart2013-01-08T23:13:53Z

I am just like you a web surfer. However, are you also a webmaster like me?

I know it is a broad claim and I can only speak for myself, but I think google Panda is real as well as Penguin and the latest addition on this list is real as well, which is the google EMD update.

These are real in my own point of view as well as for those thousands of people, mostly webmasters like myself.

I claim this because:
-Many websites got penalized or were de-indexed right after google announced they have updates/changes for their search algorithms.
-google wants to provide people with valuable results. And the only way they can do this is bt filtering junk pages on their search results


However, if you are a webmaster and you wish to avoid these penalties or recover from it, I have tried a course called the Panda Breakthrough. It work well for me and it might work well for you too.

Wallace2013-01-08T05:24:29Z

Google Panda is just a name for a series of codes developed by computer scientists/programmers. It uses Boolean, If&Then, and 'and/or' factors, plus several others.

I don't know what has to be proven... the fact that it is named "Panda"? Well, maybe Google uses a different term at their HQ, but the name "Google Panda" may be more for marketing and public appeal. I dunno.



"Google claims to have quality detection algorithms -- panda -- which they use to penalize web sites in the search engine rankings..."

By this, I would have to say that if you searched for something like "I want to commit suicide." Google utilizes their engines to find results to HELP you. Literally. Here is a link from Google: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&spell=1&q=I+want+to+commit+suicide&sa=X&ei=CCnsUPOrEKrU2QWsgoCwCA&ved=0CDEQvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357316858,d.b2U&fp=315b47759d0dad9d&biw=1030&bih=503

Now, here is a link of the same search term from Bing -- http://www.bing.com/search?q=I+want+to+commit+suicide&go=&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=i+want+to+commit+suicide&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=

Bing will not help you. To answer your question, yes, Google has a high quality algorithm... it can go against what you are looking for in order to HELP you.

Anonymous2013-01-08T07:37:42Z

Yes.

http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2122234/Panda-DNA-Algorithm-Tests-on-the-Google-Panda-Update

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20054797-281.html