What exactly is the difference between, "Then and Now"?
How might a human being discover the relationship between "Then and Now", if a difference was to be found?
2013-07-02T06:08:52Z
*footnote - It appears that from these various responses, the only difference between "Then and Now" is to be found within the human mind (the human intellect), no? What happens when the human mind (the human intellect) is no longer allowed to intervene or become involved? Might that be that very "Moment" when one finally realizes "The Truth"?
ra†ia2013-06-30T10:59:55Z
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Salaams dear brother...
what appears to be obvious on the surface might have a deeper meaning. it is this deeper meaning that i believe you are asking about...
so i will attempt to answer this question inshallah. :)
beyond the fact that "then" is past tense... and "now" is present tense...
is there any difference at all? i am not sure.
sometimes our position may be worse... sometimes our position my be better... but without change in the level of our being... our position will remain the same just at a different point in time... but in eternity... it might be a moot point.
and it would bee best to ask someone who knows. [Assalato wassalamo alaika ya Rasool Allah.][7:157 Qur'an] Subhan-Allahi wa biHamdihi.
hope this is helpful... but i fear not so much...
thank you for this question... (perhaps i will edit in the future...) and much love, wa salaams!
edit: This song is just as good now, as it was then. [x] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoPPMktXCEI
I could answer this question a zillion different ways. :) And whatever method I choose, will be for now.
Many lifetimes ago I was a high priestess, and in other incarnations I was a rebellious one to be sure. In this lifetime, I am a "slightly rebellious non royal"
The difference is me. How I see things makes all the difference. The roles I play, the experiences and lessons I choose change with me. My childhood memories change with me, my dreamscapes alter at my command.
You my friend have asked an unanswerable question.
When was then? (one second ago or 3000 years ago?). Time is what time is. ----probability hopping becomes a thing to do no? :)
Edit: When the human intellect is not intervening, I suppose all there is is pure awareness and as you say "The Truth" is beholden. I love those moments when it's all so crystal clear like that. :)
If there is a difference, what causes the difference? If it is the presence of an intellect then yes, the moment of truth is the stripping away of that knowledge.
I have only had one or two moments that I can think of in which I felt aware of timelessness and aware that I was experiencing truth. One such moment left me healed, forgiven and transformed. I no longer needed the old me and realized the "true" me was there all the time, I had just kept her down. The truth brought her back.
How to discover the relationship between "then and now"? Be good to yourselves so that you may live long enough to keep producing the "thens" which will lead to hopefully more enjoyable "nows" :)
Take care out there~and thank you for the chance to participate.
This question is unanswerable. If only it wasn't so? We aren't meant to know the truth, just to seek it relentlessly with a child like wonder and a whisper of wisdom.
We only live in the now, because currently that is all we can do. I personally like the idea and the meditation that Astral Projection brings, its probably the closest thing to being outside of "now" that I can think of....well that and dreaming. Imagination and the power of sheer will (some may call it prayer) are far stronger than we currently can tap or understand. Our future lays in those human (and human alone) traits. Perhaps we can concentrate on mastering the now, then we can we can live how we are more than likely supposed to. A bit of a ramble but difficult questions can do that ;)
There is no such thing as "time." 99.99999% of us believe in time, but it doesn't exist. All that exists is the eternal now. There are no people living "back there" in "the past." No one is going to build a machine that will take us "into the future." This is all nonsense. There is no "then," there is no "future," there is no "past." Here we are - we will always exist in the here and now. It is said that some people don't -- that's because they spend their time fantasyzing about things that already happened or things that will or may happen. But they, too, live in the present moment -- the eternal right now ...