Will the Nill Nye-Ken Ham debate affect the Creation-Evolution conversation?

I thought it was close.

2014-02-05T09:39:47Z

I give Bill Nye the edge on this debate.

Spah-ky2014-02-05T09:24:21Z

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Someone you don't even know tells you that your great, great, great,...
...great grandpappy was a lightning-struck puddle of goo, and you accept it without question? Someone tells you that you are just a chemical accident, and you are fine with that?

Sorry. I have known super smart people who get things wrong on stuff that is here and now. So, I definitely do not swallow, without question, conclusions about the unobserved non-verifiable past from someone who was not there. What has happened to critical thinking and questioning authority? Were the folks from the hippy generation really braver than the new crop of lemmings? I hope not.

Skookum2014-02-05T11:53:34Z

Unfortunately, the clear winner was the Creation Museum and the Hamsters because they are getting all this free publicity and all Ham had to do was say they have all the answers they need. I guess Bill Nye never heard about "the pigeon on the chessboard".

Jayden's ♥Aunt♥2014-02-05T09:20:23Z

Well, cupcake, I'm not being snarky, but with your screen name as evidence, I doubt you were ever going to think that Bill Nye won the debate, so the fact that even with your massive confirmation bias, you thought it was close should indicate to you just how handily Bill Nye won when viewed even-handedly.

People who believe in creationism aren't going to be swayed by facts or logic or anything else because they are afraid that NOT to believe will offend their god, so in that sense, it won't alter the conversation. However, if just a few of the people listening were able to hear something other than the Kool-Aid Ham makes his living peddling, that's a good thing.


Added: I must admit that, going by your screen name, I figured you'd be fully in Ham's camp...and with that consideration in mind, I figured you'd be unswayed by anything Nye would say.
I'm pleasantly surprised. Thanks!

David2014-02-05T09:22:42Z

Yes it shall further cast this question into the dark and with that many more will now just be in darkness. Both of those men up their spewing lies mixing them with TRUTH. and satan laughs.What I felt very bad about was Mr. Ham saying everything was created in 6 24hr days only thousands of years ago. What he did was to teach subliminally that GOD is an deceiver making it appear HIS creation to be many billions of years old then GOD writes and says it is only thousands of years old and writes that in HIS WORD.Yet be advised everyone the age of the universe and the earth is not given in THE BIBLE. Only lies about THE WORD OF GOD GIVES YOU THAT. and satan laughs Well now Mr. Nye and Mr. Ham can hold hands in hell for this is where liars end up. Now what can be learned about Spiritual warfare from this. satan uses both of those men to further his agenda.
JESUS BLESS YOU
david stotler

NDMA2014-02-05T09:14:50Z

One salient issue that might come out of it is Ham correctly pointed out the distinction between observational/experimental science and 'historical' science. The best response Nye could come up with is the tired CSI nonsense that really does not apply.. That is were Ham, in my opinion, made his biggest blunder. He failed to show why the analogy is invalid. Was it because he did not know how, or he assumed it was such a bad analogy it did not need a response. I don't know but I think he should have responded.

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