We can never out run the light we see?

We can never out run the light we see. (c)
However it is conceivable that we could travel much faster than 299 792 458 meters / second.
The current understanding in this matter (by almost all) is incorrect.
At first glance it would appear even Einstein was (shall we say) "a little wobbly."

Can any of you guys : show me I'm wrong?

2014-02-19T14:33:55Z

I posted this in answer to another question, but it will give you a guide.
Example :
In my advanced prototype craft, I'm using the gravity of progressively more massive stars to catapult myself ever faster toward my goal : A Super massive black hole. On almost skimming the Event horizon of said... my speedometer is now reading 99.9999%of c.

For health and safety reasons... my heading is toward an area of space which appears void of stars, after what seems like weeks have passed... I realise the void really is "void of anything" I have nothing to take bearing from. My speedo still reads 99.9999% c.
My health appears to be normal, my reaction speed, heart beat, everything is as if I'm still sitting at home.
Now bored, and apparently suicidal. (or just to prove a point ) I decide to suit up and exit my craft.
Am I torn from my ship at 99.9999 of c? " Nah... am I heck," I'm simply floating next to my beautiful craft, held by my gently magnetic boots.
Th

2014-02-19T14:39:07Z

The lights on my ship are still reaching my eyes at c and... just being curious, I check my wristwatch... yes, its still ticking one tick every second.
I fire my laser hand gun into deep space and the beam thereof leaves me at a rate of c, I have made no impact on the speed of light. (my speedometer still shows 99.9999 %)

Now : for this question, we just rewind a little and instead of using the S M Black hole to catapult away we go into an orbital free_fall still doing 99.9999% c .
I give my thrusters a tiny fire and begin my descent, the event horizon (not being a physical boundary) offers no resistance, because I'm already doing 99.9999% c the steady increase of momentum (inverse square) soon results in my trusty speedo indicating my rate to now be exceeding 300,000 km per second, I have broken the so called speed limit and I still feel like I'm floating.
"I rest my case."

"The time approaches."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_univ

2014-02-19T14:46:09Z

You will see relativity has not been compromised, the math has already been done.
We need to open our eyes, we need to not only look... but to see.
I can do : it can you?

"It's all simple : all of it."
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All the best.

2014-02-19T16:45:53Z

Read the question at no time do I make any impact on the speed of light : c.
No matter what my own speed : be it 10 km/ second, 100,000 km / second, 100,000,000 km / second, the light from my laser will always leave me at c (light speed) At this time I don't give a jot about a third party's reference frame : in my accelerating frame of reference my clock ticks at exactly one tick per second, my mass according to my measurement / my scale, is as it was. I understand special relativity, your knowledge very likely precedes my own, but I have understanding, there's a difference, knowledge without understanding is useless.
There is no speed limit : "the speed of light is independent of motion."

poornakumar b2014-02-19T12:46:33Z

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You seem to be far more knowledgeable than all of us running into several billions. After seeing your credentials here I thought "ignorance (of the knowledge you have) is bliss". Good luck !

goring2014-02-20T01:18:27Z

The speed of light depends on the density of the massives space structure and time potential of space..
In the case of the Fizeau experiment it has been shown that the speed of light in the medium of a fluid like water at different temperature is variable.
Hence in the physical Universe if your soul had to travel beyond the boundary of space at the speed of light as we measured
relative to the earth; it would be too slow, and would take ions of time to get to Heaven.
Hence there are many unanswered questions about how fast motion can actually take place in the Physical Universe.
Basically Einstein postulate of special relativity is concerned about the speed of light is something that was assumed at the time he based his theory of relativity.
The velocity of light is not independent of the source.When the sun radiates light particle flux it does it in multi direction;hence different velocities.

Anonymous2014-02-19T20:43:25Z

Perhaps explain how its conceivable that an object with mass can travel faster than the speed of light.
Not one scientist would agree that Einstein was "a little wobbly", especially since every experiment and observation in the last century supports Einstein's relativity.
And explain why the current understanding is incorrect.

I am sure we would all love to hear your mathematical proof.

quantumclaustrophobe2014-02-19T21:16:39Z

No.. we can never out run the light we see.

At least, not in a dead heat. No amount of mass can travel at or exceed the speed of light *in this universe*, but it *is* conceivable to exit this universe and re-enter it in another place, seemingly ahead of the light you were trying to out-run.

So far, in 100 years of study, I don't think Einstein shows any wobblyness in the least.

John W2014-02-20T00:01:45Z

No, you've only proven you're not very bright, that little thrust and the descent into the Black Hole would still not accelerate you beyond the speed of light, special relativity time dilation and Lorentz space contraction would see to that plus your apparent mass would've increased to a third party's reference frame. You've missed out completely on what special relativity means. Go back to school and I mean grade school.

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