War in Heaven?
Okay so God created the universe and during that point in time all angels were essentially good. But during the time of Jesus Lucifer had already fallen and became the enemy. Now my question is, when did Michael and Lucifer fight?
Okay so God created the universe and during that point in time all angels were essentially good. But during the time of Jesus Lucifer had already fallen and became the enemy. Now my question is, when did Michael and Lucifer fight?
Anonymous
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Lucifer is not Satan. Lucifer is simply an Anglicised version of two Latin words, which are: Lux Ferrer.
There is no Lucifer is any Hebrew text, in fact, Lucifer has absolutely no meaning in Hebrew whatsoever.
Isaiah 14:12 is a reference to the god of the day star, and Isaiah using this prideful god to mock the tyrannical Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar II. The verse does not refer to Satan at all.
The Archangel Michael is the patron and protector of Jacob, who would go on to become Israel. Due to Jacob's brother, Esau, "accusing" Jacob of cheating him of his birth right, Esau's patron became the Archangel Samael. Samael, or Ha Satan, is the Accuser and Adversary of Israel.
It is Michael and Samael, who are sworn enemies of each other.
After the Flood, Samael, aka Mastema, the angel of hostility, requested that God spare 10% of the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim; so to test the faith of Mankind. God agreed.
The "war in heaven" occurred when the Bene Elohim, (Sons of God) came to Earth and took for them the daughters of men, and "knew" them. The offspring was the Nephilim. This is why God sent the Flood in the first place, because, Mankind had become corrupted by the Seed of the Fallen.
Basically, the Book of Revelation is a rip off, of Apocalyptic works, such as the Book of Jubilees, the Book of Enoch, the Book of Daniel and the Assumption of Moses.
The war in heaven never occurred, as it is completely make believe. But, the least Christians could do, is get their story right, with regards to who Samael, aka Mastema, aka Satan actually is.
Hmm. I want pie
Publius
The war in heaven was fought before man lived upon the earth. It may have been after the formation of the earth, since the Revelation shows Satan casting down a third of the hosts of heaven down to earth.
janaji63
The fight of Armageddon is yet to come. It will be the final battle. Satan's earthly armies will gather there to fight against God & God will destroy them all. So far, there has been no physical battle other than the throwing down of Satan & his demon angels.
Faith
You can read of the fall in Ezekiel, Satan is referred to as the son of the morning, and again as the King of Tyre. It is also mentioned in the book of Revelation. Jesus states in the book of Luke that he beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven. This happens before the first man is created.
Anonymous
the fight between them doesn't happen until the tribulation