please explain what the holy trinity is?
I've b heard man explained versions of what it means, but give me your idea of what it means
I've b heard man explained versions of what it means, but give me your idea of what it means
Amine
NO SENSE!!! it's human made there is no trinity in the Bible and Jesus never said that He's God or worship me all that is DEVILISH and i dare anyone to prove the opposite.
the trinity is: the father is God, the Holy Spirit is God and the son is God BUT they're not 3 Gods but one God & it continues the father is almighty and the holy spirit is almighty and the son is almighty but not 3 almighties BUT 1 almighty &it continues the father is person and the holy spirit is person and the son is is person BUT not 3 persons BUT one person i'm asking WHAT LANGUAGE ARE YOU SPEAKING ??? person, person, person, BUT NOT 3 persons BUT ONE person ?? 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 ??
let's say you have two other brothers. And you're three identical triplets and we can't make difference out between the three of you they all identical we can make out the difference If one commits murder can we hang the other? We say no. I’m asking why not? So you tell me that’s he’s a difference Person. I said right. What makes him different? His personality…So the Father, you know imagination the human mind, you can’t help when you use words it conjures a mental picture. When you say in the name of the Father you have a certain mental picture of that old Father Christmas Santa Claus millions and millions of time bigger than man but something like a man sitting on some planet with his feet dandling on the other on a footstool…the loving Father in heaven. When you say God the Son…you’re thinking of a handsome young man, blonde hair, blue eyes, nice beard, handsome features …and God the Holy Ghost something that came like a dove when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist in the river Jordan or something that came in flame of fire at Pentecost.”
“I say the picture is not very vivid but the picture is there…you have three distinct mental pictures, and how so hard you try you can never super impose the three pictures and create one. There ever be three in your mind. But when I asked you how many pictures you see? You say one…brothers and sisters
you are lying to us!”
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD :
The Holy Quran say "And your god is one God. There is no deity [worthy of worship] except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful." Quran(2:163)
the bib say
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mark 12:29
So we all know that Jesus and Mary ate food and we all eat food!So after eating we'll all need to the toilet!and this is not the quality of God
JESUS IS A PROPHET
The Holy Quran say:"Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth.They had both to eat their (daily) food.See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! "al-Ma'idah(The Table,The Table Spread)(5:75)
the bible say
"What things?" Jesus asked. "The things that happened to Jesus, the man from Nazareth," they said. "He was a prophet who did powerful miracles, and he was a mighty teacher in the eyes of God and all the people." Luke (24:19)
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John (5:30)
they didn't kill Jesus
The Quran say:
« And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. » (4:157-178)
The Bible say
« At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. » John 8:59
« Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. » Acts 1:11
wake up people
Anonymous
please explain what the holy trinity is?...................The trinity is a man made doctrine that developed at the start of the great apostasy that the apostle Paul foretold!
I am assuming that you are Muslim. One thing you need to remember is not to confuse TRUE Christianity with the apostate teachings of Chrisendom!
The bible does not support the Trinity.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
For many thousands of years Gods own people did not worship a Trinity, in fact they taught the following,.....”hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:” Deuteronomy 6:4 NAV
The Jews were very different from the surrounding nations who DID worship a triad of Gods, such as the Babylonians and the Egyptians who were well know for it, however Gods people were different as they were monotheistic and were not influenced by the pagans triad worshipping. This is one of the reason why Israel were warned about affiliating with the surrounding nations, so that they did not end up worshipping their false Gods!
Jesus backed up that belief when in prayer to his heavenly father said,...”"This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17: 3. Notice how he calls his father the ONLY TRUE GOD!
The first century Christians taught the same when they preached for example 1 Cor 15: 24-28 where we see in Vs 24 that Jesus has a GOD AND FATHER and that in Vs 28 he SUBJECTS himself to his God & Father!
Unfortunately the Christian congregation by the forth century had given in to the surrounding nations triad form of worship, this was the great Apostasy that Paul had foretold would set in after he was gone, and the Trinity doctrine was then born there in Constantinople in the 4th century. This was contrary to what the first century Christians taught !
See
The Truth About the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/the-truth-about-the-father-the-son-and-the-holy-spirit/
Regards
Terry
Anonymous
The word 'trinity' is not in the bible but that doesn't mean the concept isn't.
Remember words like millenium, theology, and even bible aren't in the bible.
The holy trinity or trinity simply means a TRI-UNITY of ONE in the bible.
In other words:
The Father is God and is eternal (Rom 1:7,Gal 1:4, &Isa 57:15)
The Son is God and is eternal (Heb 1:8, John 1:1 & Mich 5:2)
The Holy Spirit is God and is eternal (John 4:24 & Heb 9:14)
All three persons form a UNITY of One God co-existing and co-equal in the eternal Godhead (Eph 4:6 and Rom 1:20)
All three persons of the Godhead were involved in creation (Gen 1:1-3, 26)
All three persons of the Godhead raised Jesus from the dead.
The Father (Gal 1:1 & Rom 6:4)
The Son (John 2:18-22)
The Holy Spirit (Rom 11:8)
Yet many scriptures state ONLY God raised Jesus from the dead (Acts 2:24,30,32, 3:15, Rom10:9, 1Cor 6:4 etc, )
Surely for all this to make bible sense is to accept that God is TRI-UNE by nature:
Father+Son+Holy Ghost= One God in the eternal Godhead (Rom 1:20 & Acts 17:29)
(1John 5:7) For there are THREE that bear record in heaven.
1) The Father.
2) The Word -Jesus.
3) The Holy Ghost.
And these three are ONE =Godhead.
Remember we cannot understand the Godhead with our own minds. We must believe it by FAITH.
(Acts 17:29, Prov 3:5, & Heb 11:1-3)
When Jesus was on earth he had all the fullness of the Godhead inside him (Col 2:9)
1) The Holy Ghost was inside him (Mat 1:20)
2) The Father was inside him (John 14:10)
3) The Word was inside him (John1:1)
The Word (God) was manifest in the flesh (John 1:1,14 & 1Tim 3:16)
Are you saved friend ?
You and me are sinners by nature (Rom 3:23 &6:23)
Eternal separation from God in the lake of fire is the wages of unforgiven sin (John 8:24, Heb 9:27& Rev 20:15)
Jesus DIED for our sins on the cross so we could go to heaven after we die (1Cor 15:1-4)
Eternal life is a FREE GIFT by Gods GRACE through faith in Jesus (Eph 2:8-9)
Not of works (Rom 4:4-5, 11:6, &Tit 3:5)
Simply believe in your heart Jesus died for your sins and you will be saved (Acts 16:31&Rom 10:9)
Religions wont tell you this truth -they want you to follow there ways of reaching God.
Jesus said he was the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE (John 14:6)
Pirate AM™
Basically, because when Christianity was starting to become a religion rather than a bunch of cults that had similar beliefs, it was obvious that there was a blatant contradiction between earlier scriptures (most notable the Ten Commandments) and the belief that Jesus was the "son of God" and the revolutionary idea of time that God had a spirit (i.e. the Holy Spirit). So the most "realistic" conclusion that the scholars of the time was to propose that God was made up of three aspects, just like other well known gods like Janus. Granted, they had no clue about the Jewish priesthood rewriting their scripture to edit out a goddess or that the Jewish scriptures did not indicate that the "Messiah" was not God or even god like.
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Trinity is a false doctrine of the Church. This reflects the bankruptcy of the Church. The truth is this.
Apart from the physical realm we live in, there is a spirit realm. The persons living in the spirit realm are all spirit persons. God's kingdom is in the spirit realm. There are many citizens in God's kingdom. All of them are spirit persons. God is a spirit person. Jesus is also a spirit person. If we earn our entry to God's kingdom by doing what God wants us to do here on earth, we will be reborn as spirit persons in God's kingdom. God's kingdom is the most pleasant place for us to live.