#6 Atheists, what would be your LOGICAL rebuttal to this evidence of the existence of God?

The necessity for a “First Cause” that relies on nothing else for its own existence.
All physical and gaseous things need a cause for their existence. This would include the largest known physical & gaseous thing which is the universe itself. The things which perhaps caused the universe to exist such as the Big Bang likewise also need a cause for its existence. No matter how far back you go, whether you speak of other universes in a cycle, other dimensions with universes of their own, membranes producing countless universes they ALL need a cause for their existence. Saying that there is an infinite number of causes and effects or an infinite cycle of universes is illogical because without an ultimate starting place for the existence of the physical there would be infinite nothingness. Logic therefore demands that there MUST be an ultimate first cause which depended on nothing else for its own existence which created or set in motion the cause or causes of the universe.

We can make numerous logical deductions as to the nature of this ultimate first cause, but that may be another question.

BJ2018-12-02T01:41:40Z

Although the concept of an eternal God may be hard to grasp, we can see that it makes sense.

If someone else had created God, that person would be the Creator.

As the Bible explains, God is the one who created all things. Furthermore, we know that the universe at one time did not exist. Genesis 1:1, 2

Where did it come from? Its Creator had to exist first. He also existed before there were any other intelligent beings, such as his only-begotten Son and the angels. Colossians 1:15

Clearly, then, he existed alone first. He could not have been created; nothing was in existence that could have created him.

Our own existence and that of the entire universe testifies to the existence of an eternal God.

The One who put our vast universe in motion, the One who established the laws to control it, must have always existed.

Only he could have breathed life into everything else.

Anonymous2018-12-02T00:17:36Z

The universe is created by the observer.

Mr. Smartypants2018-12-02T00:17:03Z

I've always thought the First Cause argument is contradictory. The idea is that EVERYTHING has a cause. Therefore, because EVERYTHING has a cause, there must be something that didn't have a cause. Doesn't that sound inconsistent?

Its like saying that EVERYTHING we know is empirical, based on observation and experiment. So therefore there must be stuff we know DESPITE evidence.

bender_xr2172018-12-02T00:15:36Z

In my opinion the honest answer is "I don't know".
I don't know how the universe came to be and I don't pretend I do.
One could argue a "godless scientific" cause, or one could argue a religious stance... such as a god did.
Either way, nobody really knows for sure.
So, "I don't know" is at least... honest.

Pyriform2018-12-02T00:15:30Z

"All physical and gaseous things need a cause for their existence."
Do they? I have never been around when matter began to exist, so I wouldn't know. Matter is just a form of energy. Perhaps energy has always existed. Causality as we know it depends on the existence of time. If time had a beginning, causality as we know it would not apply.

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