Ladies, can you give guys examples/tips on how not to be a creep?
There seem to be at least some men who either are genuinely confused about how not to come across as an obnoxious creep when expressing their interest in the women around them, or are pretending to be thus confused.
I'm willing to give at least some of them the benefit of the doubt. There are guys out there who have poor social skills, or got led astray by BS pickup-artist crap, or whatever, and genuinely don't know why they're coming across as creeps.
So, fellow womenfolk, what advice would you give to confused dudes who want to express sexual/romantic interest in women on how not to seem like a creep, a jerk, or a sexual harasser when they do so?
Please be as specific/clear/direct as possible, eg don't just say "look for signs of disinterest", say "look for signs of disinterest, like A, B, or C"
Anonymous2020-04-15T08:48:56Z
Why women get easily creeped out by everything or anything a man does? Maybe women are just retarded?
Consider context. If you're in a work place environment, any expression of sexual interest is inappropriate. If you're interested in a colleague, it's not a bad idea to try to win a friendship and express interest in a non-work/casual setting. But keep in mind some of the below.
1a) If you're in a gay/lesbian bar and the woman isn't making the first very obvious moves, then you shouldn't hit on the women there. 2) If she says "no thanks" to an invitation, then that should be the end of your pursuit of a woman unless she makes it clear that she wants to "reschedule." As in "hey can I buy you a drink?" "No thanks." "Ok then have a nice night." La fin. Other examples of this are "I have a significant other," "I'm just here with my friends so I sorta wanna get back to them" or "It's been nice talking but..."Examples of a reschedule and therefore not a stop sign on your pursuit of her: "Hey can I buy you a drink." "Oh sorry I'm with my friends right now. Can I give you my number?"3) Anything that happens in Fifty Shades of Grey or Twilight. 4) Apart from professional handshakes, fist bumps, or those pats on the shoulder people give each other in movies about sports (NOT shoulder caresses but affable *pats), I think men should leave the initial touching to the woman, especially if they are unsure about how the touch will be perceived. If she touches you, I think it's fine to reciprocate *in kind. But don't escalate until, when after you've matched her actions, she continues with comfortable touches. This will allow her to continue with what she is comfortable with. If she stops touching you after you reciprocate, it is perhaps an indication that she is not a fan of reciprocation and wants to pull back to avoid communicating romantic interest. I think this is a good test because many times women are physically expressive but don't necessarily expect men to behave the same way in platonic interactions given how men and women are expected to behave in general.
This is a moving target. You should not be the one initiating all touch or escalation.
5) Personal space is very much the same. Don't move into her personal space (unless you're like just trying to be heard better in a noisy place and only move in long enough to say what you're saying) until she starts to move into yours and stays there.
Note of caution. I think it's fair to say that sometimes, women (and people in general) attempt to smooth things over when they are made uncomfortable just because society trains us to immediately respond to "is something wrong" with "no it's fine." No should always mean no. And yes should be yes. But "I'm ok" or "I'm fine" don't always mean those things. Unfortunately I don't think this can be clear-cut or as deterministic as you asked for. I guess consent should be rather more enthusiastic than "fine" or "ok."
Most women tend to have a higher threshold for what “creepy” behavior they will tolerate from men who they find to be physically attractive. Get more attractive.
Frankly, I don't really care what women consider to be creepy. lol
The truth is what is creepy and what is not is subjective. Men taking the time to worry about not being creepy will just make them come off as creepy or just all out terrible. It's better for men to just be who they are and let things go as they will.