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Atheists: a possible signature of God?

Here's one for atheists who can do maths:

The Sun's diameter is 400 times that of the Moon, and happens to be about 400 times as far away from the Earth. This permits the Moon to just barely cover the Sun in a total eclipse. Now, what's the probability of this ratio occuring for any planet? And what's the probability of it occuring for a planet on which there is life? And what's the probability of it occurring for a planet on which there is life, and life that can observe it?

Let's see the maths

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Sigh. We're in an elliptical orbit around the sun, the sun's diameter changes, and the moon is receding.

    Other than that, though, good try!

  • 1 decade ago

    There is really nothing special about the ratio of the sun and the moon. If it was any different, you would instead be claiming that ratio was special and trying to use it as your evidence of a creator.

    If God wanted to make something special in orbit around Earth, he could have given us a pair of smaller moons and a host of tiny ones so that once every thousand years they would all line up with the sun and make a giant smiley face.

  • 1 decade ago

    Or what is the probabily of having 6 moons that all encircle the sun in a perfect olympic-esque form? With life on that planet? Life that can observe it too?

    Exactly. We only consider this because our planet does have it. (If we accept this as true even). The odds may be low, but the moon size to distance ratio ins't exactly evidence in itself. Given we are one planet with life, in one solar system (the only known in our solar system), in one galaxy in the entire universe, the odds are actually fairly high that this would happen somewhere. Just happens that it occurs on our planet

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    1) The moon is moving away from us.... so the odds that it will at the right distance to cover any stellar object at some point in time are pretty good.

    2) The probability is 1

    3) The whole question is based on a fallacy, anthropic bias (a kind of observation/selection bias)

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    here we go again.....

    I can hold out my thumb and it covers the sun to make an eclipse over my finger....amazing! BTW it is not that perfectly matched.

    We only know how life forms on this planet. How do you know other forms of life can't occur on other climates or galaxies. There are so many planets where life could vary tremendously.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    There is no way of disproving your logic... and that's the flaw of the christian faith.... what you cant prove, you also cant disprove, so why not just accept it???

    That's just a bunch of horse manure

    What makes you believe that this hasn't happened millions of times over on hundreds of other planets in the infinite number of galaxies throughout the universe? There isn't a way that you can calculate probability in an infinite number of possible places for this perfect situation to occur.

  • 1 decade ago

    You clearly like your probability. Here is something for you to think about. Toss a coin a thousand times. The probability of you getting the exact sequence you got is 1/2^1000 or about 1/10^300. Does tossing a coin a thousand times prove the existence of god?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Your "facts" are wrong. The apparent size of the moon varies greatly, making it appear larger than the sun at times (which can result in total eclipses even longer in duration than your perfect 400x size) and smaller at others, resulting in annular eclipses. Look it up.

    Your failure to comprehend math and astronomical geometry provide no evidence of a divine hand.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm not going to bother with the math but I'll bang a question back to you ... Now that you have an answer to this mathematical puzzle, why not apply it to and estimated figure of stars and planets in our galaxy and give us your best estimation of the number of life-friendly planets the might exist. If I'm not mistaken, there are something like 200 billion stars in our galaxy, The Milky Way.... If each star had eight planets ...? ... etc .etc. ???

  • Nomad
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    the suns diameter fluctuates, the earths orbit around the sun, and the moons orbit around the earth are elliptical, so it isn't always 400 times as far away

    the probability of life else where is extremely high seeing as how there are over a billion billion planets

    for the sake of argumanet lets say it is a signature, what makes it God's signature and not Zeus'?

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