Are both non-muslims as well as muslims all guilty of describing Islam "out of context"?

They are both taking it out of context. However, in many cases the context has more relevance than in others.

In your examples, the violence and aggression that comes from the verses are indeed taken out of context and once they are read in context, there is better understanding of the verse.

However, when you take a verse such as "there is no compulsion in religion," that stands all by itself. It is not in any certain situation where it is being applied. The whole concept of that verse of or of the context is that there is no compulsion in religion. The "scholars" you've mentioned are not taking the killing of apostates out of the Qur'an because it does not mention such a thing.

So, to sum it up, both are taking things out of context but the context is more relevant in some cases.

I hope this helps

Peace

EDIT:

i'm sorry. i thought you were talking about only the Qur'an. In the Sunnah when such things are also said about killing apostates, in this case the context is important. There were certain situations. Many people converted from Islam during the Prophet's SAW time but he did not kill all of them. There were certain people who'd betrayed them in war and were therefore held accountable for treason.

As Salaam to you all,

If we look at the Glorious Qur'an and read it correctly you will see both negative and positive actions following each other. One cannot exist without both of these actions but all too often, either a Muslim or non-Muslim will just take what they need to push their own view of what they believe to be true.

The schools of thought are also taking apostates out of context but is it the schools fault or is it through manipulation by a later scholar adding something to Islam which is not there. Simply put, if your life was at threat because you became an apostate, would you not lie to stop being killed? Of course you would, so the execution would never take place. Now we know that people will lie to save their own lives but we cannot see within their hearts and anyway Allah (SWT) is the Supreme Judge.

People will be who they want to be, irrespective of what others may think or do. Some will tell the truth and some will lie, irrespective of the consequences.

Wa Salaam

Simply put, yes, because most Muslims who engage in discussions and try to give answers often use wrong logic, and are not educated enough to give a deep answer, beyond the English translations of Ayahs in the Qur'an. Also, many Muslims try to find easy paths in life, so they will often look at a select few verses in the Qur'an, and may use those to justify their liberal lifestyles. Also, many Muslims are guilty of "watering-down" Ayahs in the Qur'an, to make Islam seem like a religion that of course everyone will go to Paradise, just be Muslim, or, "no, this certain rule is cultural, or not valid anymore", etc. This is because of the lack of knowledge amongst all people, including Muslims.

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In the proper context Islam was the old fashion Moon God Al-ilia (shortened to Allah) from the Arabian Peninsular area.

Ali-lie was married to the Sun Goddess and the stars were their daughters

What is the symbol for Islam? It is a crescent moon and a star.

killing in war is permissible in Islam,ONLY if Islamic Country is Attacked,its for defensive purpose,and not to Attack,which amounts to Transgreassion.and is not allowed.

not like america taking on iraq ,afghanistan,thousands of miles away from mainland usa.

Those who say that Muslims are to arbitrarily kill all non-Muslims they come across are, of course, lying about Islam.

By the same token, those who say that there is no compulsion in religion, and therefore, there is no force of belief in Islam, are TELLING THE TRUTH.

"But every reputable Muslim school of thought teaches that apostates be killed if after a few days of peaceful persuasion they still refuse to come back to Islam"

This, my friend, is a huuuuge misconception in Islam.

You see, if a Muslim decides that s/he doesn't want to be a Muslim anymore, s/he can do so and s/he is NOT to be harmed by ANYONE. NO MUSLIM has the right to take a person's life, if not for self-defense.

Here, these are from Qur'anic sources:

QUR'AN, SURA 2 (THE HEIFER), VERSE 256

"There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower."

~Pickthall translation

"Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error; whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things."

~Yusuf Ali translation

"Let there be no compulsion in Religion. Now is the right way made distinct from error. Whoever therefore shall deny Thagout and believe in God."

~Rodwell translation

"There is no compulsion in religion; the right way has been distinguished from the wrong, and whoso disbelieves in Taghut and believes in God, he has got hold of the firm handle in which is no breaking off; but God both hears and knows."

~E.H. Palmer translation

HADITH, BUKHARI

(all 3 were narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah)

A bedouin gave the Pledge of allegiance to Allah's Apostle for Islam and the bedouin got a fever where upon he said to the Prophet "Cancel my Pledge." But the Prophet refused. He came to him (again) saying, "Cancel my Pledge.' But the

Prophet refused. Then (the bedouin) left (Medina). Allah's Apostle said: "Medina is like a pair of bellows (furnace): It expels its impurities and brightens and clears its good."

~Volume 9, Book 89, Number 316

A bedouin gave the Pledge of allegiance to Allah's Apostle for Islam. Then the bedouin got fever at Medina, came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Cancel my Pledge," But Allah's Apostle refused. Then he came to him

(again) and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Cancel my Pledge." But the Prophet refused Then he came to him (again) and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Cancel my Pledge." But the Prophet refused. The bedouin finally went out (of Medina) whereupon Allah's Apostle said, "Medina is like a pair of bellows (furnace): It expels its impurities and

brightens and clears its good.

~Volume 9, Book 89, Number 318

A bedouin came to the Prophet and said, "Please take my Pledge of allegiance for Islam." So the Prophet took from him the Pledge of allegiance for Islam. He came the next day with a fever and said to the Prophet "Cancel my pledge." But the

Prophet refused and when the bedouin went away, the Prophet said, "Medina is like a pair of bellows (furnace): It expels its impurities and brightens and clears its good."

~Volume 9, Book 89, Number 323

As you can see, it is very clear that NO Muslim is to kill any innocent. It's also very clear that even Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did NOT have the bedouin man killed for cancelling his reversion (conversion) to Islam. Also, this man was free to return to Islam whenever he wanted, and NOTHING happened to him.

In Islam, people are free to accept the religion or not.