How can the Arabs claim the Jews have no claim to the land, when there are churches to mark were JESUS was?

The Kotel/Wailing Wall is much older than any church in Israel and it is the holiest place for Jews as it is a remnant of the ancient temple site. The Torah is also 1000's of years older than the Koran and it specifically outlines the land of Israel for the Jews and shows specific plots that the patriarachs BOUGHT from the original occupants. For example, Abraham bought what is called the Gaza strip from his neighbors and he buried Sarah in that area. He did it publicly and gave the full asking price for the land.

Islam was invented many centuries after Jesus lived. The Palestinians are also a new invention, they are merely Arab refugees that no other Arab nation would take in, they sought refuge in Israel and now they are being used as pawns in the Arab vs Israeli conflict. If their Arab cousins cared about them so much, they could easily create a Palestinian state for them in Saudia Arabia, hey there is plenty of sand in the desert for them to pitch their tents. Or with the Arab wealth, they could also create a Palestinian state in the middle of the ocean near Dubai. There is no shortage of land in the Middle East. Let it be known that the "palestinian" people do not have a language, culture, history, ethnicity separate and distinct from the rest of the Arab people, they are one and the same.

It is the Jewish people returning to the land that made the desert bloom again. The land was almost completely uninhabitable 100 years ago. It wasn't until the modern state of Israel was reborn that the land began to flourish.

Most of the world doesn't realise the heart of the issue, it is a very ancient conflict and one of jealousy. Abraham had 2 sons, Ishmael from which the Arabs descend and Isaac from whom the Jews descend. Ishmael was born of a slave woman and eventually sent away with blessings but not the blessings of the first born. Isaac was born of a miraculous birth as Sarah was very old and he was considered to be the true firstborn and given the firstborn's blessing. Ishmael has hated Isaac every since that time out of jealousy. Ishmael was called a "wild donkey" and the prophesy was that he would be a man of contention and strive against everyone. The hatred of the Jews by the Arabs is built on 1000's of years of resentment.

Palestine does not belong to the Jews and Jesus has nothing to do with anything. If anything, it was the Jews that killed him. Yes he was a Jew but just because he was a Jew does not mean that Jews have the mere right to own the land. Palestine belongs to the Palestinians which includes both Muslims and Christians. Christians believe solely in Jesus Christ whereas not many people know that Muslims also believe in him and follow his teaching as well as the teachings of Muhammad (PBUH). The now Israelis escaped to Palestine during Hitler's rule and did not come to Palestine to live in peace. They are greedy and selfish and used techniques done to them in Germany by the Nazis towards the Palestinians to rid them of the land so that they are able to claim their own country. Jews, if you have not noticed, do not have their own country so the second best thing to them was to steal one. Palestinians are descendants of the old Jews in Palestine before Christ who then converted to either Christianity or Islam. In simpler terms, their ancestors were Jews. Palestine belongs to the Arabs and that's that.

What Zionism and Israel had anything to do with Jesus anyway?. They were all rejected and regarded Jesus as the false prophet and was a liar.

Yes, in history Jews were living and ruling in the land but that was thousand years ago and even in the Jesus time, the land was in the rule of the Roman Empire not the Jews.

We are not denying Jews living in the land but not to govern and rule them in the name of Zionism and Israel. In fact before 1948 and not only during Jesus, there were several thousands of Jews living in the land and they have no major problems with the Arabs. The big problems existed just after 1948 until now due to to the formation of the Zionist state and the agressions done by them.

The Jews are also living in New York, London, European cities including in India, Ethopia etc. etc. at this present time. But can you tolerate if the Jews forming a nation call as "Jewish/Zionist/Israel New York" just because millions of Jews living in New York???. The matter of fact is you just cannot canquer any land just bacause you or your ancestors lived there once upon a time.

Jesus fulfilled the law of Moses and it was taken out of the way Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

God had the city of Jerusalem destroyed in 70 A.D. never to be rebuilt. He brought the end to the Jewish nation.

Jos 23:11 Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God.

Jos 23:12 Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you:

Jos 23:13 Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

Jos 23:14 And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, and not one thing hath failed thereof.

Jos 23:15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

Jos 23:16 When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you.

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

I think what the Arabs claim is wrong. Before Islam was even born, Jews had already been there in Palestine. Islam began in Arabia not in Israel but they did manage to take over the Holy Land in Israel and that's when The Christians began the Crusades to try and take the Holy Land from the Muslims.

Jesus is also accepted in the Islam religion, albeit as a human being and a Prophet of God.

But even if he wasn't, that wouldn't legitimize the way in which Israel stamped their authority on Arab lands by driving away the Palestinians during the Arab-Israel war of the last century, because the two are not relevant.

Besides, its annexation of Jerusalem is not even recognized by the international community (though there's not a damn thing they're doing about it) and its still continuing its establishment on West Bank defying international calls for halt on settlement considering the peace process with Muslim nations.

Aside from the irrelevance of Jesus to the whole Jewish homeland issue, whose to say these churches didn't just pick some likely looking spots to erect their shrines?

because the jew have not been there for over 4000 years., By that logic, all Americans should leave and let the Indians the land.

Very true!

Jesus was a Gnostic so everyone over there is all confused.