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? asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

Was Jesus Christ really a socialist?

October 4th of this year, Michael Moore posted a blog on his website aimed at those going to church that Sunday morning. He eventually arrived at this point: “I have come to believe that there is no getting around the fact that capitalism is opposite everything that Jesus… taught. All the great religions are clear about one thing: It is evil to take the majority of the pie and leave what’s left for everyone to fight over.” At the end of this letter to churchgoers, he makes this closing comment about Jesus and the feeding of the 5,000: “Either he was the first socialist or his disciples were really bad at packing lunch.”

Was Jesus Christ really a socialist? Well, first, socialism must have a definition. Merriam-Webster’s dictionary has 3 definitions for the word, and they all involve collectivism, governmental ownership of the means of production in a society, and the lack of private property rights by individuals. Socialism is much closer to diet-communism, containing all the potential for a collectivist society without quite so much bloodshed. The goal of all Marxist theories (including socialism, fascism, and communism) was to eventually create a paradise on earth. This paradise would be governed by the principle that each person was not unique. That person simply worked as part of the whole, putting in as much as they could and being given only what they needed by the all-powerful government.

Now that socialism is defined, the work of Jesus must be put into a similar light for comparison. Jesus was sent to Earth as the Son of God, preaching salvation for belief in Him, and of a paradise AFTER this life is over. Jesus did in fact do many wondrous acts for people throughout His ministry, including healing the sick, feeding multitudes through miracles, and even raising others from the dead. Jesus once said, “Give, and it will be given to you…” (Luke 6:38a), and on another occasion stated, “Sell your possessions and give to charity.” (Luke 12:33a). In His interaction with the “rich, young ruler” in Luke Chapter 18, Jesus told the rich man, who argued that he had followed the law, to sell all his possessions and give to the poor. Later, once the rich man went away sad, Jesus said, “Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

So what comparison can be made here? Both socialism and Jesus do indeed advocate giving. The difference comes in the motivation for the giving, the method of the giving, and in the scope of the giving. Jesus advocated giving to others in order to store up treasures in heaven. Socialism advocates giving to others in order to do your duty to society, and to eventually create a collectivist paradise. Jesus told people to give freely, since God loves a cheerful giver. Socialism doesn’t really care about the mindset in which the individual gives up possessions and liberty, for it is taken by force in the end anyway. Jesus did not teach that one should wait until government takes the money to give it to the poor; he said to do it personally so that it can be used in the furtherance of the ministry. Socialism actually prefers government redistribution of wealth to personal charity, so it makes personal charity more difficult and redistribution of wealth the norm.

Dr. Timothy Faber, pastor at East Tipp Baptist Church in Lafayette, disagreed that Jesus was a socialist. He stated, “The ability to own personal property, to recognize that people have the right to have possessions, is a God-given right.” Dr. Faber referenced 2 Corinthians 11 and 12, where believers are urged not to be a burden upon anyone. This is a clear message for self-reliance. 1 Thessalonians also talks about personal responsibility, saying to “lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you, so that you will behave properly toward outsiders and not be in any need.” Clearly, the Bible doesn’t advocate any type of reliance upon the government, which happens to be a central tenet of socialism.

As far as who should be doing the giving, and at what level, Dr. Faber explained that the Bible makes it clear that individuals are to care for themselves and their family first, and then for others within their community. He pointed to 1 Timothy 5:8 which states, “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” How can one provide for their family unless they have a job and keep some money for themselves? How can one raise a family unless they have possessions, such as a house? Dr. Faber went on to say “The Bible makes it clear that the church or individuals are to meet the needs of the poor, not the government.” He made it clear that one teaching of Scripture (being self-reliant) can’t be ignored in order to fulfill another (giving to the poor.)

Leftist individuals would argue that churches don’t give enoug

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  • 1 decade ago
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    No, that is blasphemy!

  • 1 decade ago

    He was not a straight socialist as in one who advocates the government should take control of all of the means of production. The governments of that time were made up of kings and emperors and were not run by the people. If Jesus lived today he would easily be a socialist by our standards. Jesus advocated that people sell all of their possessions and give them to the poor. He lived with his apostles and they pooled their resources together and distributed according to need. He may not have used physical force to take their possessions, but he used the same kind of "choice" that we use today. He gave them the choice of giving up their possessions or burning in an eternal lake of fire and being denied heaven. The choice today is paying taxes or going to jail. Knowing that your taxes don't amount to 100% of your wealth we can say that Jesus was an extreme socialist.

    Now it is time to address the conservative Dr. Faber's poor arguments. First I have noted that he does not even quote Jesus to back up his assessment of the man. Second socialists have never said that people should be lazy and not work. They also do not argue that we should give money to the lazy. They say that everyone should work for the betterment of society as a whole. They do not believe people are generally lazy. They believe that those are unable to work due to disability should be provided for. The soviet communists tried to raise the people's spirits and encourage them to work many times. Socialists never said that one can not own a house or have any possessions. The socialists simply advocate that people give according to their ability, to each according to their need. In other words they were extremely against people hording mass amounts of wealth and keeping it for themselves while people starve. Socialism is always attacked because communism failed and capitalism is more in line with what man wants, but Jesus didn't like the capitalists. He expelled the capitalists from his kingdom and he advocated that man follow his word and not give into their own greedy ambitions (the premise in which capitalism runs on). It is clear to anyone who looks at Jesus's word objectively that he is a far left, liberal, socialist.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Providing Free Health Care to the sick

    Gave food to the poor

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    No.

    I love how the libs who led the movement ot remove God from the schools and will not allow prayer claim that Jesus was a liberal.

    How would they know. I was not aware they were aquainted with him.

    When Harry and Nancy can lay hands on the sick and heal them then I will listen to their garbage.

  • Golfer
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    I guess he missed sowing and reaping.

    I guess they missed to work with you hands.

    I guess they missed you will always have the poor.

    I guess they missed you shall worship only the Lord your God--not the democrats.

    I guess they missed where tax collectors were only suppose to tax what was owed.

    I guess they that many disciples were independent businesses men.

    I guess they misses the Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, Christian Missions.

    It is another attempt to distort the truth.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    At least cite your blogspam : http://www.purduereview.com/node/25

    And Jesus would definitely not be a conservative, he liked to feed the poor even if they hadn't worked for the food.

  • 1 decade ago

    No the government killed him

    and he didn't use the government to give to the poor and needy

  • Jesus did not advocate bureaucracy taking away money at gun point and threat of jail and spreading it around at their whim, did he?

    He did everything out of his own free will.

  • 1 decade ago

    Jesus was a socialist, and he hated Mammonist (Modern day capitalist)

  • tybalt
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    He was a community organizer.

  • 1 decade ago

    The short answer, which is the one you seemed to arrive at, is "no".

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