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patio door questions?

hello - I am in the research process of replacing a worn out patio door.

Currently installed is a 2 panel (one active) french door.

The plan is to change to a gliding door.

With installation prices being quite high, and a reasonable degree of home repair aptitude I am approaching this as a self-installation.

I will have the help of my brother who is a professional concrete finisher with a lot of wood-working know how.

My first obstacle is trying to determine the actual dimensions of the replacement door.

The frame of my french doors measures 71-1/2 to 71-9/16 wide, and about 80 tall.

I have not been able to determine the "standard" width of a 6-0 door, or if there really is a STANDARD. It seems pretty obvious a frame measuring 72" isn't going to squeeze into this opening. I'm hoping a 71-1/2" wide door isn't a "custom" (pricey) option.

Besides the measurements -- I expect some degree of wood rot along the bottom of the door.

I'm wondering what supplies I should have on hand to make sure the installation goes as well as it can.

Update:

Thanks for the suggestions Mooned.

I'm aware of needing a slightly larger opening allowing room for shimming.

I've been searching the web for a couple hours reading up on some repair techniques. Just trying to acquire as much info as possible.

Update 2:

Movin: I removed the trim last night and took the measurement you suggested. That is where the 71.5-71.625 dimension came from.

Update 3:

My brother already suggested having some expanding foam on hand. Also, on a recent siding project we used some adhesive flashing - a tar/tape type material that seems like it may be useful for this job as well. Any drawbacks with that?

Update 4:

Rebel, if I asked for a metric door at Home Depot I'm pretty sure they'd laugh me out of the store.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Use a recriprocating saw (Sawzall) to cut out any rotten wood. Each end should have a double stud so you can remove one with a recriprocating saw and then rip a custom 2x4 with a table saw to replace it (or the rotten wood). Often times though, when a door is put in the opening, there is space between the frame of the door and the 2x4 studs. This is so you have a little room to level it 90 degrees perfectly on both sides. There could be some spacers or shims between the door frame and 2x4 studs. So there is probably a 72" opening. Carpenters make sure the frame is perfectly up and down. Then, they slide shims at the top and bottom to hold it, and then they drill the frame to the post. I'm not sure a sliding glass door would be done like this, but you can buy a bundle of shims at any Home Depot/ Lowes. Good luck.

    Use some good clear silicone or rubberized caulk in places where you don't have to paint. It's stronger than paintable latex caulk and will last 35+ years. You can also spray any large gaps with a can of spray foam insulation. Use a wonder bar to remove the old moulding. You can find them at the Home Depot. It's a small carpenter's crowbar. Put a cloth/ small towel behind it so you won't leave marks on the wall. Hopefully, you can put the moulding back in.

  • 1 decade ago

    If you are going to be replacing the door, then remove the inside trim and measure from your framing to obtain your rough in measurements. Give those measurements to your fabricator and you should be fine. I like to have a half an inch on both sides and top so I can make any and all adjustments to insure an easy install. I suggest you have two levels on hand a 2 ft and a 4 or 6 foot, a pack of shims to level and adjust your doors, and some spray foam insulation to finish the job off. If you are anything like me you will measure your new door prior to removing your old one as I have had 2 come to the job and were 3" too tall.

    cheers

    Source(s): 25 yrs renovating
  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Try and get a quote from a builder instead of a double glazing installer...

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