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Is there a valid point against the Islamic center being built near ground zero?
I've heard lot of emotional arguments against it, but none that are logical or reasonable. It's ironic that so many of the people fighting against it would also be the first to say that terrorists attacked us because they "hate freedom." But who hates freedom if not those who don't stand up for it when it gets a little uncomfortable?
This intolerance is all the more reason why this cultural center needs to be built. It needs to stand as possibly one of the most TRUE testaments to freedom in America. What would be a better testament to freedom than to resolve to remain free even when we don't like it? What would be a better kick in the teeth of freedom than to deny it to those we disagree with? To those who some feel are acting in poor taste?
As it's been said time & time again, the Bill of Rights is not intended to protect what's popular; it's intended to protect unpopular speech, unpopular religion, etc. because what is popular does not need to be protected.
I do understand why somebody in NYC who lost a loved one that day might be against it, but it's unreasonable to set aside freedom for the sake of those who are emotional about something.
What other groups of people think and act out of emotion? Think about it.
EddyJ: Putting up a memorial to Nazi's at the beach in Normandy is not the same as putting an Islamic Cultural center two blocks from ground zero.
Just like putting a YMCA just outside of Auschwitz is not the same as Al Qaeda putting a memorial at ground zero.
Al Qaeda is not building the memorial, but people seem to think that's the case. It's like attributing all of the worst factions of the Christian faith to all Christians, saying something like "all Christians are either Nazi's or members of the KKK," and then picket the construction of a YMCA where Nazi's or the KKK committed their atrocities.
Amuna Pulamare:
Isn't that what the opponents of this Islamic center are doing? "whining about their feelings being hurt?"
Peace through blinding force:
> Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is not an agent of hostile foreign powers, and has not been "acknowledged" by anybody as such. He has only been "acknowledged" as having questionable intentions by people who are opposed to the building of the Islamic community center at Park 51, and it's based on a distorted interpretation of comments he made, which are no different than many comments made by non-hostile U.S. citizens.
>I don't know where you got your information about others not being allowed to develop on the nearby property. The potential conferment of landmark status was considered as a possible obstacle to the Islamic center being built, but the existing building was denied landmark status, which paved the way for the Islamic center to be developed. Is that what you're talking about?
>Your last three points are based on fear and ignorance, not on reality. Just because some terrorists are Muslim doesn't mean all Muslim's are terrorists.
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
While there may not be any valid points against it, you have to remember people are not logical. People are just emotionally driven animals. Thats why there's terrorism, war, hatred, religion. Please don't tell me your so naive as not to know this. In the eyes of Americans, especially those who were affected by 9/11, Islamic people deserve justice, even to innocents. It is sad but true.
Source(s): Now i'm not referring to any individuals here, just the majority. Oh right, look at the answers by the people above who oppose it, you know what i mean? - ?Lv 71 decade ago
Yes. There is in fact no valid point FOR the Islamic center being built near ground zero.
> The front man for the project is an acknowledged agent of hostile foreign powers and WILL NOT disclose who the principles are for this project.
> Others were NOT ALLOWED to develop nearby, REPAIR existing buildings or even repair the building on the lot in question.
> Hostile foreign powers do NOT have rights in the U.S.; not property rights, not religious rights and certainly not special privileges that are REFUSED to everyone else.
> This center is to be a monument TO intolerance, according to the Imam-in-charge
> The Bill of Rights is not intended to protect SELF-DECLARED ENEMIES.
- 1 decade ago
The point is that protesters feel that the mosque should be farther from Ground Zero and agreeing to move it would be a gesture of goodwill. That is the argument from the other side. But I guess the 70% of Americans who oppose its location are the only ones who must be tolerant. Tolerance works both ways.
There have been agreements signed by construction workers to refuse to work on the mosque, they are talking about a human chain to prevent it from being built. People who lost loved ones or who lived through the attack have very strong feelings about it. Its one of those things that people relive over and over. It would go a long way to acknowledge those feelings are valid rather than trying to basically shame them for their "intolerance". I think they know they are in a losing fight.
- ?Lv 41 decade ago
The "hate freedom" rhetoric is BS. The reason behind the attack on the US? According to the book "A Pretext for War" one of the reasons for the attack was the Israeli attack on a UN sanctuary in Qana, Lebanon on April 18, 1996. There was only the elderly, women and children there, the Israelis firebombed the sanctuary killing many. There is a famous shot of first responders holding a tiny baby's body without a head. It was this picture that supposedly caused Osama bin Laden to cry out against America. The UN Security Council was about to sanction Israel and at the last minute the US vetoed it meaning Israel got away with the attack. This makes more sense that the attackers "hate freedom".
- Marcel WeeztLv 71 decade ago
Yes, it is insensitive, a public safety issue, and it is wrong. Would you put a memorial to Nazis on the beach of Normandy?
The bill of rights has nothing to do with this argument. No one is denying the right to build a mosque.They are saying just don't build it on this site.
Do you wonder why libs and this peaceful muslim are fighting so hard to build a mosque here even though it goes against the wishes of millions of Americans? What is the real reason here?
If it is truly just a mosque and cultural center, why build it here?
Edit: In effect it is.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Um, excuse me people, but why are we even debating this?
What we should be debating is how 2 planes brought down 3 buildings. Last I checked, that question never got resolved.
Source(s): @ hitler - nice logic? I was talking (of course) about the 2 planes that crashed in Manhattan. But I will play your game. So, are you suggesting that the plane which supposedly hit the Pentagon, ALSO crashed into Building 7? Or was it flight 93? I thought it was supposed to have crashed in Somerset. So which of your 4 planes hit building 7? - Anonymous1 decade ago
There is no valid reason, in fact i think they should put it there to show the people against it that they cant just say there offended by something and force other people to change.
lol at Socrates, there were 4 planes, one of which was United 93 which was retaken by the passengers. that leaves 3 planes.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It is insensitive and in terrribly bad taste to build it there. If they are truly trying to get along why would they do something that offends so many people? What would they be doing if they WERE trying to make a political statement about the great "victory" they had achieved?
- Big MamLv 61 decade ago
Is there a valid point in letting it being built there? The bill of rights protects you in that you can practice any religion you want, but no where does it say you can put any building anywhere you want. No one is saying they can not be Muslim. No one is saying they can not be a Moderate(sic) Muslim Center. They are just asking they put in a more acceptable location.
- Mr. WolfLv 71 decade ago
After you get pass the B.S. it is Islamophobia.
Some think it is some kind of Victory mosque. I guess they think the only thing Islamic extremist ever wanted was a mosque near the World Trade Center site.
Some think it would remind 9/11 victims of the tragedy as if they don't remember it every day. They think seeing a mosque 4 blocks away from ground zero will not remind them of 9/11 but seeing one 2 blocks away will.