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What if Stanley Baldwin's cabinet had accepted the morganatic marriage of Edward VIII and Mrs. Simpson?

Would have Edward VIII dissuaded the United Kingdom from entering World War II? Would he have continued to have been seen as a modernizing influence? Would Princess Elizabeth of York still have succeeded him on his death in 1972?

Update:

Yes, I understand that the British monarchy has never allowed for a morganatic marriage. This is a what if alternative history type of question.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Interesting question - it's actually not so much that the British monarchy has never allowed for a morganatic marriage, more that English common law doesn't allow for it. (I use the word "English" advisedly - Scottish law is different - the two legal systems were never merged at the Union of 1707.)

    I have no doubt that he would not have done anything to dissuade the UK from entering WWII as he was totally out of step with political opinion. The British "political establishment" is very much inclined to do its own thing and rules via the elected Parliament while totally ignoring the monarch. I don't know about a "modernising influence" as the only thing he was really interested in was himself. The real concern of the government would have been to keep a VERY close eye on him in case he was passing secrets to Hitler. This is why he was made Governor of the Bahamas in 1940 and kept there until the war ended - it kept him conveniently out of the way and unable to do any damage.

    Meanwhile, as he and Wallis never had children, then if nothing else had been different, we would have Queen Elizabeth II now and we'd be looking forward to her Golden Jubilee in 2022 assuming she was still on the throne at the age of 96!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The UK had and has no legal provision for morganatic marriage, so it was either a marriage in which Mrs. Simpson became the Queen Consort or nothing.

    But suppose that had happened: a full-out royal marriage in which she became the Queen Consort. Given that the King had few powers, and whatever his Nazi sympathies might have been, would probably not have been able to stand against a tide of anti-Nazi views in the government, I suspect that war would have come anyway. And if it had, Edward VIII would probably have done his best to be fully patriotic. In the end, his sympathies really were with his own country, not with Germany, for all the Anti-Semitism and so forth his personal views involved (and he wasn't alone in the royal family in his Anti-Semitism and xenophobia; George VI and the Queen Mother felt them, too). I suspect that the outcome of the war would not have been any different.

    I also suspect that Mrs. Simpson would never have given her third husband a child -- she hadn't had any children by her first two husbands, and she was about 40 when she and the Duke married -- so, yes, I think Elizabeth would still be Queen today. Elizabeth's grandfather, George V, certainly envisioned this. He did not expect his oldest son to produce an heir, and he hoped that Elizabeth would eventually succeed to the throne, after her father succeeded his older brother.

  • ?
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    4 years ago

    His prefer to marry a divorcee replaced into the constitutional concern that ought to not be conquer on the time, and in this occasion meant that the government extra or much less pressured the abdication. His 'connections are considered as distasteful now... yet have been extra well-known and favourite then. Mosley's nazi sympathisers needed to rearrange a march by using London's East end, which had a large Jewish inhabitants as a manner to fire up anti semetism, in plenty the comparable way the EDL attempt to fire up hatred of muslim communities at present. The on a daily basis Mail ran the headline... 'HOORAY FOR THE BLACKSHIRTS!' at present... even the on a daily basis Mail does not go that far! The events of 1936 would desire to be considered in an historic context. cases have been different then. (Little humorous tale there!)

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Monarch could declare war,or prevent the declaration of war.Hypothetically,if Edward VIII had

    married,or not,remaining King would have enabled him to refuse war in 1939.Britain would have

    been neutral.

    It is well documented that Edward had been horrified by what he saw in World War I,never

    wanting that for his nation again.

    If he had refused war,which he most certainly would have,Britain would still be powerful,instead of being a larger nation within the nearly 30 nation 'European Union'.

    Germany would have beat the 'Soviet Union','Japan' would still have been defeated by the U.S.A

    and the Cold War may have either not happened,or would have been between the U.S.A and Germany.If King Edward had outlived his brother,Elizabeth would have become the next monarch.

  • 1 decade ago

    The UK doesn't have morganic marriages.

    If Edward remained King.....

    ......he probably wouldn't have asked Churchill to be the PM.

    ......UK probably wouldn't have gone to war over Poland.

    ......UK probably would have surrendered to Germany after Dunkirk, if the UK and Germany were on opposite sides.

    ......UK might have joined Germany in a war vs Soviet Union.

    ......the embarrassments he caused would have been magnified had they been made while King than while Duke of Windsor.

    Lots of "what if's".

    What is certain is that.....

    ......based on their activities post-abdication, Elizabeth's father was a far better asset to the UK than the Duke of Windsor. The UK is most fortunate that he was King rather than Edward. Too bad some of his descendants aren't as good as him.

    ......since Edward died without children, then Elizabeth would have been made Queen in 1972. Elizabeth's cousins are from siblings younger than oldest son Edward and 2nd oldest son Albert(Elizabeth's father's actual given name. George VI was his "regnant" name).

  • 1 decade ago

    He might have tried to stop Britian going to war with Germany, since I understand he had pro-Nazi sympathies. How much influence he would have had is doubtful. elizabeth would still have been his heir.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It would have been immediately squelched even before it began because the obligatory examination to prove virginity would have revealed Simpson to have a pecker where a clam should be.

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