Theists, what do you think of the Pope's new Philosophy?

Once again, they twist their teachings to suit their needs. Remember the whole "you have to be jailed and tortured if you don't believe that the Earth is at the center of the Universe" thing? Unbelievable....The joke goes on...except it's not funny.....

The Pope isn't saying there *was* a Big Bang but that if there was, God was still behind it.

It is what we have said all this time. God is the designer...how He designed it is up to speculation.

If you wish to believe that God created two rocks and banged them together to create the universe, then you can. If you wish to believe that God drew a circle in the darkness and created the earth, you can.

"Pope Benedict said on Thursday that God was behind complex scientific theories like the Big Bang, and Christians should reject the idea that the universe came into being by accident."

The Catholic Church never taught Creationism. I do know that it was a very prominent teaching of some Catholic priests--just as almost all the world taught it, but the CATHOLIC CHURCH never taught it.

There are 9 things, as Catholics, we *must* believe in:

1. Creation of all things by God at the beginning of Time

2. Special Creation of Man

3. Formation of the First Woman from Man

4. Unity of the Human Race (with God)

5. Original Happiness of our First Parents

6. Divine Command placed upon Man to prove his obedience (to till and *protect* the Garden)

7. Transgression of that command at the instigation of the Devil (ate the apple, didn't protect the garden from Satan.)

8. Fall of our First Parents from a State of Grace

9. Promise of a Future Redeemer

That's kind of silly, as you can trace this 'new' view back to Pope Pius XII at least. Also, the big bang is tremendous evidence for a creator of the universe. On atheism we would have expected the universe to have always been here. It was only on Christian theism (among select others) that a belief in the universe's beginning had been defended, even in the face of science saying the opposite for centuries (see, for instance, Aquinas' argument against eternal duration, and the fourth Lateran council in 1215).

Remember that the reason we call it the 'big bang' is precisely because when Jesuit priests, who were also scientists, came up with the idea, it was ridiculed and pejoratively called 'creation science' and given the name 'the big bang' by it's opponents in order to mock the idea. If the big bang is true, then it radically supports Christianity. Also, about Genesis: this isn't a retreat in the face of Science. Christian theologians have been saying this for over a millennia. For instance Augustine says the same in his book "on the literal interpretation of Genesis" in the fourth-fifth Century.

If an atheist concedes the big bang, then they are the ones agreeing with 'Christian Science', not the other way around. Remember that.

According to all scientific theories: "Matter cannot be created not destroyed." Therefore, since that is true, then asked your self the question: How did it all began? Answer: It began by an Almighty God! This is His World and Universe. You don't have to believe in it, if you don't want too. You'll just have to suffer with all the other pagans before you and the Atheists of today.

The Catholic church has supported the idea of a big bang since the beginning. The scientist who first came up with the theory was actually a Catholic Priest, so this really isn't news.

Um, the Big Bang Theory was started by a Catholic Priest lol Just like the Scientific Method was brought about by a few men, one of which was Roger Bacon *gasp* another Catholic! rofl

It is not theists who have changed their viewpoint.

Until fairly recently the atheist argument against theists was 'There could not possibly have been a 'beginning' to time so your Bible saying 'In the beginning...' is nonsense'

Many of us remember that clearly.

The six days of creation have been considered allegorical for well over 3000 years.

As far back a Augustine (354 - 430) we have not taken the creation account as more than allegory. Please don't confuse the Pope with other segments of Christianity.

@Tyrel -Awesome and priceless!!

And your alternative theory for the creation of the universe is?

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