Purebred cats without papers?

First off, I am sorry you got reported for that! I hope you will appeal. I totally agree with you. Just because the cat does not have papers does not make him/her any less then they are. We get plenty of 'purebred' cats at my shelter. People do 'surrender' their purebreds sometimes, it happens and it is very easy for a cat to escape and be rescued. Not too long ago, an owner surrendered his siamese cat cause he had a broken leg. He could not afford treatment. The shelter had to amputate his leg. He got adopted pretty fast. I do think that cat breeders are getting way out of hand here. Another example is colors. Here in the real world, there is no such thing as a red cat or a blue cat and so on. Just in cartoons! Orange and grey are the cats colors.

Definitely appeal. If you win the appeal, the 'one' that reported you will lose her/his reporting trust..

Best of luck!

Like they say in this link:

If a cat has no breed..it does not exist....

http://tlmcgaa70.hubpages.com/hub/Mixed-Cat-Breeds

Purebred Cat

Of course people should love an adopted cat whether or not it has papers.

But that doesn't mean that I advocate people supporting substandard breeders breeding & selling unregistered cats that may or may not be the breed they are claiming -- and often are not.

I am not certain whether you are talking about the question I saw & answered, but in that one you were not just telling someone to love a cat they had adopted no matter whether it had papers. You were telling the Asker to buy a kitten (advertised as a "Bengal") from some BYB selling it on Craigslist , and to then tell people that she "rescued a Bengal".

I was surprised to see you say that ( and I am even more surprised now to hear that someone involved in rescue would suggest supporting the very kind of breeder that rescuers have to clean up after all the time) and I wrote that if the Asker wants to RESCUE a Bengal she should adopt one from a legitimate Bengal rescue rather than giving money to encourage some BYB to keep breeding.

If THAT is the question you're talking about, it sounds like you may be imagining I reported you, but if so, you are mistaken. I don't recall that your answer violated Community Guidelines and I would not report you because i disagreed. So unless you added something to it later that was a lot worse, you should just appeal it.

Yes there are sometimes purebreds without papers. They are a lot fewer than some people imagine , though, since the breed cats are such a tiny percent of cats. ( Many people imagine that cats must be like dogs, usually a specific breed or a mix of a few breeds. But that is just not true for cats, most of whom descend mostly or entirely from cats who have just bred randomly on their own. ) . Some people seem to mix up breed and colour/ pattern. and think all pointed short hair cats are "Siamese" , all blue shorthair cats must be "Russian Blues"

But yes there are some purebreds who don't have their papers. They can get lost or surrendered to a shelter, too.

There are also some unethical breeders who buy cats as pets and break a contract and breed them. or they themselves buy breeding cats without papers from some other BYB. Sometimes cats from such breeders could actually be the breed claimed. ( but many times they're not.)

One of my cats, a seal point boy adopted from a Siamese Rescue, originally had been at a breeder's who was selling fake "Siamese"; apparently they had bought some pet quality Siamese and then bred them to pointed moggies. My cat was the result of such a breeding and was being used as a stud. but he obviously (to anyone who really knows the breed beyond the colour pattern) was not pure Siamese.

Did I love him any less than my pedigreed show cats? Absolutely not.

Would I suggest someone buy from such a breeder advertising cheap "Siamese" on Craigslist? No way.

And yes there are kittens who would be classified as "pet quality" due to having some cosmetic "imperfection" that would disqualify them in a show. I do not agree with selling those kittens without papers. And it is part of the Code of Ethics of some breed clubs and associations that all kittens from breeders should be sold with pedigree and registration.

Sometimes breeders will lie and tell people they don't register because it is so expensive and they want to save the buyer money. The truth is it only costs $10 - 12 to register a litter and IMO there is no good reason for a breeder not to do so. It's how they keep track of their breeding, their lines. It's can be a way that health issues are tracked. If they ever sell breeding cats to others, it is a way for future breeders to check on the inbreeding coefficient. And it is part of what any buyer should get with their kitten. Including if they are buying the kitten as a pet.

When someone does not register , usually it's because they CAN'T. Either they bought their cats from some other irresponsible breeder and don't know where they come from. or else they bought them as pets "not for breeding" and they dishonestly went and bred them anyway but can't register the kittens.

Or else they've been banned from cat registries for some violation like animal welfare issues or falsifying papers.

NONE of those are people I want to give money to.

Its wrong ONLY when the person is breeding a cat that should never be bred. Nothing wrong with adopting a cat, BUT its rare for a stray to turn up that IS a purebred. It happens but its not common.

I've seen far too many pics in YA and in craigslist of people claiming its a breed of cat and from the picture its quite obvious its not that breed - so they either deceive people or they were deceived by others.

I know the breeds - I show cats and am quite familiar with knowing if a cat is a breed or not. Some are very obvious breeds - like a Rex (curly coat), or a Russian Blue (I bred them), or a true Burmese or Aby. But unless you know your breeds from experience and not just look at pics and say "oh my cat looks just like this" - its not a breed - its a domestic long or short hair cat.

On here earlier, someone posted they thought they had a Neblung but it was a blue and white domestic long hair cat - NOTHING like a Neblung. And they said "oh it looks like one and acts like one but it has white on it...........but could it still be one or part one?

I am more outraged that Yahoo would accept that report as being valid, so was there anything more to it than that? And I hope you appealed.

Without papers, it cannot be properly termed that breed in a cat show, but so what? That is not what is at stake here. All cats are capable of giving unconditional love.

I lose track of the people who post their cat pictures but are certain they are a Maine C**n, a Bengal, etc, when it is clear they are not. And I realize there are some who get snippy in their responses to that person, and that is clearly rude. But Y/A is not a moderated forum, so that is all part of the risk of this forum.

I have multiple cats. DSH, DLH, calicos, torbie, tabby cats. No papers, but lots of love. And none are a specific breed. As the British would term them, all moggys.

She may be mentioned she is a Ragamuffin, as that helps slender down people who're in seek of for some thing greater specific then a tabby. She continues to be able to giving unconditional love and in a cat, that's what particularly counts. no longer some piece of paper. I definitely have numerous cats, all rescues, and that i does not commerce any of them for a cat with papers.

That terribel and I am sorry for you cuz some body wrong and dont know that all kinds stuff happin. And happin to us past year round haloween time. Paul my husbind go fishing up Big Ugly creek and me figure hed be gone some hours cept a bout 2 hour later he back jmp outta truck and I see him carry some thing in his jackit. Turn out lil cold shivry dirty kittin!!! Now she making funny sounds too and that why he found her thot was some type bird he never heerd. Call her Bweully finely cuz a that lil bweu bweu bweu hardly sound like no cat.

Get this lil thing warmed up and feed her and funnyiest looking lil thing we ever seen. Sqwashin face falt as pan cake teeny pinky nose mashup beetween her eyees and we think some thing wrong with it. Get her to vet next morning and she dehidrated and been not eating cept what we fed her. Vet figure 2 3 4 days.

Vet think she stollen cuz he say she Pershen kittin and check for microship. Aint none so he soak her top back and finds new spot where he say microship come out. He say to call police and he do and Paul call em later say where he found her and no no body lost no kittin finnley come out. But she DO come from some place and Doc tell us name of place to call. They dont never call me back and I call her maybe 11 12 time.

Then 10 day later may be we take ride over there with Bweully and no body come to door.

End all this we got pure bread fancy Pershen cat call cream smoke type with peek face what they call sqwash falt kind face.

And we got no papers!! Corse not. Some body do. Why aint never come out anser our adds our Luranne made and not call police mistry.

Must happin simlar things other folks they find a cat or cat find them otta no where.

So I say you right folks can have pure bread cat and no paper.

Ha! An we do have Bangel cat that do have papers acshually daugher Rayless cat, What some one come and steel Viney! Then they got very ecspensive pure bread cat with no paper cuz we got the papers.

Cats is lovely animals dont matter what kind tho!!!

super long link doesnt work... but i like long and short..... but everyone looks different along with different styles of hair. some people look better short others look much better long

Usually, that's too long for me. I think it depends on the guy and his face though. Certain guys may pull off long hair and other people can't.

That's almost like the shaved or " bald " pu~ssy cat.

Who really cares ?

You can tell what's pure or what's mixed, kinda like people too.