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To Gallop or anyone who can share correct information about the synthesis of minerals in horses.?
In humans, calcium carbonate cannot be utilized as a calcium source (verified in extensive studies since 1993, one source being New England Journal of Medicine). Taking a Tums and thinking it is a good source of calcium is a fallacy. Cheap and expensive vitamins have only calcium carbonate as their calcium source so that is useless. A couple of better ones have Ca citrate or Ca gluconate which is acceptable. In using rice bran pellets to supplement your horse's calorie level, the manufacturing company adds calcium carbonate with the theory being that this will bring balance to the rice bran which is sorely lacking in mineral balance and can be very harmful due to that fact. Horses, like humans, aare mammalsbut their systems handle some things very differently from say humans or dogs, also mammals. If these companies are adding the calcium carbonate to balance the minerals in rice bran, are they actually accomplishing the establishment of mineral balance or is it just there to aappeaseour minds or can a horse aactuallyabsorb this as a calcium source and achieve the mineral balance as it was intended? Personally, I doubt that they horse can utilize calcium carbonate as a calcium source and seeing it on the ingredient list of rice bran pellets does not assuage my very serious concerns. I would appreciate anyone's opinion accompanied by referenced studies or well documented information to the contrary. I have been unable to find any information about this. Thanks for the assist.
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- gallopLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
Hi. I haven't encountered the same conclusions on calcium carbonate bioavailability in any credible resources I've encountered, so I can't comment on it. I have read numerous studies on it and overall bioavailability of calcium carbonate hasn't been shown to be significantly different from that of other dietary calcium sources. Amorphous calcium carbonate has been shown to be more bioavailable than the crystalline form, and calcium citrate has been shown to be better used in some studies and not in others, but nonetheless they are all absorbed and utilized in the studies I've seen.
I'm posting a very good abstract which presents a thorough overall presentation of what the numerous studies on this have entailed and on what they've shown. It is lengthy, but worth the read, and provides credible data that disputes some of the commonly perpetrated misinformation out there. It also cites resources for additional information. You can also type "calcium carbonate bioavailability pubmed" into your search engine and various studies available online will come up, with some more credible than others.
Anyway, here is the abstract..............
http://www.jacn.org/content/19/suppl_2/119S.full
This article specifically cites equine research that has shown calcium carbonate to be readily absorbed from the intestine and independent of vitamin D...................
http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/eenhc/2006/kienzle...
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Add.............. Studies in the past that have proposed poor absorption of calcium from calcium carbonate actually either measured solubility of the calcium compound outside of the body, or they measured urinary excretion of calcium and then interpreted the results to be indicators of how much had been absorbed into the blood stream. However, in vitro solubility and urinary excretion have been shown to be unreliable predictors of how much calcium is actually being absorbed.
Source(s): Registered Nurse and 59 years with horses - SnezzyLv 79 years ago
I'll be interested in seeing the answer to this. A brief look on-line revealed little. There are some scientific papers, mostly behind pay-walls, and I'm not about to spend several hundred dollars to read all of them. Based on what I know of acids vs CaCO3, I would guess that Ca from CaCO3 is actually bioavailable. All that is needed is sufficient acid to separate Ca++ from CO3-- (presumably CO3-- ==> CO2 + O--) in solution.
I'd be interested in pointers to papers showing that CaCO3 is not a good source.
The other part of the body's use of Ca in bone formation is vitamin D. It is clear from the occurrence of rickets that D plays a major role in Ca use. From what I have been able to tell, sunshine on the skin of the human body in the summertime produces a sufficient level of vitamin D in less than an hour. In the winter, or for people who live only indoors, the situation is different. During the winter I take 5000 IU/day of D3 even though I spend a lot of time outdoors. I seem to have no bone problems, in spite of my advanced age, and when I cracked a rib recently in an accident it healed right up in less than six weeks.
Horses, along with all other mammals, make Vitamin D from sunlight on the skin. I do not know how well this works, but it's rather obvious that the heavier hair and fainter sunlight of winter could pose difficulties. Some supplements for horses contain Vitamin D.
- Jeff SadlerLv 79 years ago
Your info is out of date. According to what I have found there is little difference in calcium absorption. All calcium salts have an absorption rate of approximately 20 to 40% EVEN calcium carbonate.
It seems there is a confusion between absorption and soluability. Regardless in the stomach calcium carbonate is converted to calcium chloride by the hydrochloric acid of the stomach.
This is the most reliable source I found...simply because, they are not selling anything.
Source(s): I heard this several years ago and looked it up then for my Anatomy students. I thought the idea had long since been debunked. Apparently it hasn't. - ?Lv 45 years ago
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