Baby dies after religious botched circumcision?

You seem to be arguing against home-based circumcisions rather than circumcisions here. Well, I think you will find that EVERYONE think home-based circumcisions are stupid, even people staunchly in favor of circumcisions.

Just like most people who are okay with drinking will think drinking and driving is bad.

So what's your point, exactly?

Sounds like medical negligence to me. A real circumcision is done by a surgeon, not a nurse, in a hospital, with a local anaesthetic, cauterised and stitched, antibiotics can be used and emergency care is on hand.

This home procedure sounds ludicrous. It also sounds as though the nurse did it as a back hander for cash. She didnt have the proper kit, she didnt have the backup required and it sounds as if she didnt train to be a nurse in the UK in the first place.

The issue to me sounds like this nurse has become a nurse in a nation with lower standards of practice and not been given adequate retraining upon arrival in the UK.

I find this kind of approach to filling nursing demands isnt something I would support and is largely how we fill many spaces for medical professionals rather than pay, as a nation, to train all our doctors and nurses within the UK in universities on our world class education system. It's nursing on the cheap bringing in nurses who arent trained properly.

@Drew, seriously, you are that lazy you'd get the most pleasurable part of your penis cut off so you dont have to pull it back to go to the toilet?

And I'd also like to point out that having a wash the normal amount we have in this modern day and age prevents any kind of detritus building up whatsoever. But back then when you washed once a month, it might have been a good idea to get rid of it.

If you think that pulling back your foreskin or the chance that if you dont wash there might be some smegma is a justifiable reason, then what's wrong with female circumcision? Why dont we cut the lips off all women too?

I'd also like to point out that the scarring on circumcised males penis also prevents the penis growing as long, resulting in a 5mm shorter average penis (yes, not including the foreskin). Do you not want your kid to have a good chance at being well endowed?

In the united states its the norm, so of course most parents continue the way of life. Many don't know why it's their lifestyle - some cite religion (due to the fact the ancient testament calls for it) however of path the brand new testomony specifically says that it's not required. Clearly, circumcision was first made preferred in the U.S. External of jewish businesses (there were few U.S. Muslims on the time) considering that it was once hoped that it would curb masturbation in teen boys. Since uncircumcised adult males masturbate utilising the foreskin, they assumed if they cut it off, boys would masturbate less. On the time, masturbation was once blamed for a lot of issues. It was once simplest decades later they began announcing it was for 'hygiene'. To some extent, reducing things off is hygenic. If it became natural to get rid of fingernails, then individuals without them would argue (appropriately) that they could not get anything trapped under them. However its not likely that tearing out fingernails would have caught on initially accordingly. So in actual fact, it used to be an anti-masturbation tactic that simply became the norm.

All I know is know is that I am getting so sick to death of people screaming for their "right" to genitally mutilate children. Circumcision has been proven harmful time and time again. How many children have to bleed to death before people finally accept this simple fact?

it's up to the parents..I personally would not like having to pull the foreskin back every time I went to urinate..and those that have unsanitary habits have smegma, a cheesy smelling/looking substance that forms under the foreskin.

There are reasons for everything that was asked in the OT. The foreskins were removed because the Jews were going to War..and on a path of ethnic and Religious Cleansing to the Promised Land..and days without water to waste on bathing..

make sense now ?

This is not a "question"...nor was the procedure done correctly.

The couple should have gone to Jewish hospital. I was born in one and my circumcision was fine.

I only regret that I'm not an actual Jew!

That is just plain stupidity. What in God's green earth would a parent in their right mind subject their child to that?

Manchester in England? I don't think so...............in fact I know it is untrue as no medical procedure can be done in the UK at home by any so called 'nurse' the parents the 'nurse' would be arrested and charged and imprisioned...............you re reading fairy stories...........................

got to remember,

got to remember,

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