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Enigma
Lv 4
Enigma asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 8 years ago

Is global warming scientifically true or false?

I know this is a controversial topic but I want to add a few facts before you state your empirical answer.

1. We must consider secular trends. (Linear trends in data that go up and down periodically)

In terms of global warming, if we look at the Earth's history we can observe that the Earth is changing temperatures dramatically many times over millions of years. (sometimes it rises i.e warming, sometimes it drops i.e ice ages)

How can we be sure that we are not in a period where the Earth is naturally warming up but we attribute that to global warming?

2. The the case with CO2 emissions.

You can say that scientifically there is a dramatic increase of CO2 emission in the Earth's atmosphere and that contributes to global warming. However, if I remember correctly the atmospheric conditions during catastrophic event that wiped out all the dinosaurs was a trillion times worse. The large and dense particulate cloud blocked the sun from reaching the Earth's surface for millions of years (or a long time). Then how can we be sure that Earth will not reach equilibrium by itself like it did with when it was worse during the times of the dinosaurs?

We also have to note that fact that there were tons of mass extinctions of species on Earth, it didn't happen once with the dinosaurs. It happened many many times with other previous species, who is to say that it won't happen naturally?

Obviously we cannot also ignore the fact that global warming and its campaign has reeled in tons and tons of money. From eco-friendly lightbulbs to electric cars to manufacturing a sustainable and economic community that has increased environmental awareness. Obviously those companies who produce these good will boost the dangerous of global warming to increase sales. How does that come into play?

I understand that I may be against global warming but there are some aspects such as environmental pollution that has a huge factor in sustaining aquatic and terrestrial ecosystems which is very important. However environment conservation is totally different from global warming which implicated the "temperature increase" in Earth specfically.

Please don't leave ignorant answers like Global warming will melt all the ice in the poles and the water level will increase. We all know that and that is just objectively repetitive and who is to say that those are not natural occurring events?

Update:

I don't disagree with the results that the Earth's temperature is rising but what if it is a secular trend.

The Earth's temperature naturally increases and decreases over millions of years. This happened countless times in history. Then why are we attributing natural temperature increase to global warming? Isn't it obvious?

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago
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    There is almost 100% scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening.

    There is a 95% consensus among climatologists that the current acceleration of global warming/climate change is due to man made emissions of greenhouse gases. The majority of the worlds climate organizations are in agreement with this.

  • Jesse
    Lv 4
    8 years ago

    The secular trends you talk about have been investigated, and science has a good understanding of what is causing them. The Earth moves from ice ages to warmer interglacial periods in response the Milankovitch cycles. These cycles are small variations in the eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth’s orbit that cause the solar insolation, the amount of sunlight the Earth receives, to vary slightly in predictable cycles. Ice core data shows that ice ages tend to occur in roughly 100,000-year cycles that match the timing of the Milankovitch cycles. The temperature between the ice ages and the warm periods, however, are much greater than would be caused by the changes in solar radiation alone. Increasing solar radiation warms the earth and is followed by an increase in CO2 that amplifies the warming.

    Though a clue to the cause of the ice ages, the Milankovitch Cycles are not the cause of the current warming. They predict a minor cooling trend, which began some 6,000 years ago, will continue for the next 23,000 years. The current warming trend is too rapid and in the wrong direction for the Milankovitch Cycles to be the cause. However, the current warming episode is being caused and amplified by man's release of 30 billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. Unless some huge catastrophe intervenes, the Earth will get warmer and warmer as long as the concentration of carbon dioxide is increasing.

  • Jeff M
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    1. They have looked at the cycles you talk about. Milankovitch forcing shows we should be cooling currently and we had been for 6000 years prior to the industrial revolution. Trend in the PDO, the AMO, the ENSO, and so on can not account for the warming we are experiencing currently.If you claim that it is provide evidence in the form of reliable scientific journals from respected publications. Stating "Well temperatures have gone up before therefor this time it's naturally" is crazy. You have to look at how much warming, if any, those natural cycles are causing. You did not do that. You did not provide any sources.

    2. The Earth will eventually begin to cool but that is not to say many of the species the are going extinct or will go extinct will miraculously be saved before that time. And with your second part of this question you go into conspiracy mode. Everyone out to get your money eh? You are doing much the same as every other person in here who questions AGW. You are looking at the effect and then coming to the conclusion that the stated cause is a hoax because you don't like the possible mitigation strategies.

  • 8 years ago

    1. I've been hearing this argument a lot lately and I usually pose the question 'If that's the case, are human interactions with the environment not natural'? I ask this because saying the Earth is just going through another natural cycle as it has since the beginning of time is an empty appeal to nature that doesn't explain how these cycles exist or why they change. The Earths' climate is not some sentient driver that follows some script, it's a potluck of forcings from topography, albedo, solar activity, ocean currents, atmospheric composition/ pressure etc. that all work in tandem forming a given climate. That said it's safe to infer that changes in these values will, logically, be followed by shifts in the net energy flow respective to those changes. Let us say hypothetically we cut humans out of the equation and replace all our industry with run-away coal fires and high volcanic activity that expel sequestered CO2 at the current rate we do (which in fact has happened similarly in the past and lead to dramatic consequences, wiki Permian-Triassic extinction) would you argue as an observer that these events will have no bearing on the global climate in the long-term?

    2. I don't quite understand what you're arguing here, nor how it relates to AGW? But yeah, extinction events have happened many times before and will happen again with time. However I will say that we're in a privileged position compared to organisms in the past purely because of our knowledge base. Unlike they, we have the potential to influence and direct the planet's state and if push comes to shove may even prevent future extinction events, whatever the cause may be.

    This is a given, private enterprise will always exploit a market that seems exploitable regardless of whether they are in the right or wrong. Do you think that the fossil fuel industry doesn't benefit from skeptics fighting on their behalf by curbing public perception away from renewable alternatives that they (well some, not all fossil fuel companies are against renewable energy) themselves don't benefit from?

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

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  • 8 years ago

    Global warming is scientifically true. It is proved by scientists that global warming is happening. The real question is are humans really affecting global warming? or is it just a natural progression?

    Do check this out : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQyqqN8-Sw

  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    There is no controversy the Earths temperature is rising that's a fact. Even if it's a natural temperature increase it's still global warming, what else would you call it?

  • 8 years ago

    You clearly aren't ignorant, and you don't deserve an answer like that.

    Thus I will not explain what is happening and what scientists know, because it would be pointless as you already understand that. I will instead redefine your question.

    Even though temperatures can increase during different ages, there is almost always a cause for this. However, you address Global Warming in a different way. You ask if it is really happening as if it will be a new stage that we will enter. Global Warming is just the average warming of the Earth due to green house gases and pollution. Yes, our Earth is warming, so one can come to the conclusion that it is scientifically true. You stated that it may just be another era that we will face and if we can manage to reduce the amount of pollution in the air, you may be correct. However, if we don't, because the amount is increasing exponentially, it WILL be a stage that we enter and the more the problem persists, the less control we will have on it. Wildlife is affected by what causes global warming, not global warming itself. However, to answer your question, it is scientifically true.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Scientifically anthropogenic influences are having a NET EFFECT on the current global warming. This is supported by science (remember it takes just one piece of scientific evidence to dismiss this conclusion, as yet none have been found).

    To answer 1. Most historical dramatic climatic changes have explanations. That is what science is ... the reasons. Current understanding of humans is that no known natural variables can explain the rate of global warming we are currently having. So yes, it could be some unknown natural variable causing the trend however we are either yet to discover this and anthropogenic influences can explain the majority of the change we are observing.

    The current trend has NO KNOWN NATURAL explanation ... but if you want to believe it is a secular trend perhaps then it just happens to be coincidence that this trend can largely be explained by anthropogenic influences.

    2. You do realise that dinosaurs were wiped out from the dramatic climatic change? Sure the planet will reach a new equilibrium, we (humans) may just not be there. Don't know about you, but as a human I probably would want to do everything in my power to stop that from happening ...

    Again, it could be "natural" but the evidence suggests otherwise at the moment. There is no long-term "harm" in reducing our greenhouse emissions, and in fact most economists (not scientists) have found that the long-term costs of inaction on climate change will cost billions more than the cost of action now.

    In regards to money, there is far more money involved in oil and gas (6 out of the top 10 most profitable businesses in the world are oil and gas ... no "green" companies make the top 100). I think they have far more to "lose" and therefore if money dictated "science" then the scientific conclusion would not paint them as the "bad guys". Not to mention Shell (in the top 5) has enacted climate change strategies and acknowledges the effect of humans. So the money argument should mean that the opposite conclusion is reached in science.

  • 8 years ago

    You seem to be pushing denier arguments

    1. There have certainly been many past changes in climate, how this rules out one caused by us is not really made clear in an denier version of this story.

    Co2 is linked to many of those warmer periods, just as drops in Co2 are linked to colder periods. Particulates are also going to have an effect but it won't last for millions of years as particulate are removed from the atmosphere fairly quickly.

    This can be seen in smaller scale by the Pinatubo eruption, it did cool the planet a little but the effect only lasted about 18 months.

    Longer term continental movement can affect both planetary albedo and ocean currents have a marked affect on climate.

    Of course the problem with the Sun argument is we have detailed data on the Sun and it quite simply over the last 40 years is not the cause, continental movement is to slow, air sampling has proved we are responsible for 99% of current emission of Co2 and volcanoes just 1%.

    You mention higher levels during the time of the dinosaurs, this is true, but with this higher Co2 we also had a much warmer planet sea level high enough that the UK was a group of tropical islands in a shallow sea and no glaciers at all. The planet was for much of this period 10-12c warmer.

    Another favorite of deniers is to point at an even older Earth ~500 million years ago and say "look it had high Co2 but was sometimes cooler" this is again true as long as you ignore the slow increase in solar output, ~10% per billion years so 500 million years ago it was putting out ~5% less, remember these are the same deniers who claim the solar minimum has an effect and that is a change of less than 0.1%.

    From my experience here deniers understand of any of these issues would not fill a thimble.

  • 8 years ago

    The earth is warming, man is most likely responsible for some of it, but it most likely won't be the huge catastrophe everyone worries about.

    However, there is strong pro-doomsday bias among academia. Any NEW information about climate change should have an equal chance of concluding that either global warming is worse than we thought or global warming is not as bad as we thought. But 90% of new research says that global warming is worse than we thought, which is a lot more than 50%.

    You may think this proves the point that global warming is really terrible, but it does not. It only proves bias. This is an important point so let me put it another way. Suppose the current consensus is that global warming will cause 5 degrees warming in the next 100 years (I made that up for convenience). This is based on everything CURRENTLY known. When science discovers something about the climate that NO ONE KNEW before, it is just as likely to say that actually the warming will be 4.5 degrees as it is to say 5.5 degrees. This is because it is NEW information and, by definition, we don't know the impact of the unknown until it is known.

    Anyway, short point is that clearly there is a systemic bias toward promoting the idea that man-made global warming is an apocalyptic calamity in the making.

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