Is it a fallacy to claim that there should be no gun control because it doesn't stop all gun crimes?

Yes

Yes, it is a fallacy.

You know what else is a fallacy? Saying that gun control will stop all gun crimes. Or, in this case, saying that gun control will prevent some lunatic from stealing his innocent mother's legally obtained gun and going on a rampage. That's also a fallacy.

It is also a fallacy to state that gun control will somehow protect everyone from the kind of person who is willing to kill not only himself, but his mother and a bunch of schoolchildren. That, my friend, is a huge fallacy.

It is also a fallacy to say there is no gun control, when no legitimate gun store owner will sell you a gun without the proper THOROUGH background checks done, along with the right permits etc. It is also a fallacy to assume that a "relaxed" gun control is at fault for someone getting ahold of another owner's gun, in the same way that it is a fallacy to assume that anyone under the age of 21 can't get ahold of someone's legally obtained liquor.

Another fallacy -- assuming that a violent act is a gun issue, just because a gun is involved. A murderous act is a murderous act and it doesn't matter if it involved a gun, knife, or any other tool used to take a person's life. Just because a gun is involved does not make it different. A man in china stabbed 20 some odd children to death the same day of the shootings. Does china not have enough knife control? Or are guns somehow worse? Think about it.

The fallacy is that there is "no gun control" when there already "is". The fallacy is that "more" will somehow "solve a problem". This tact is like saying the beef stew that was spilled on the white carpet will not stain it if you remove the carrots from the mix! What happened from Columbine to Newtown is not due any "one thing" but a totality of circumstances which create the monster. I own guns, I play video violent games, I enjoy violent movies, I would say I have some "mental problems" (doesn't everyone?) and yet I have no inclination to kill anyone (as of this writing anyways!); why is that? I am exposed to the same things everyone suddenly wants to ban or increase regulations upon, as are millions of others, and yet we have not killed. Taking away or regulating the ingredients will not stop the monster from being created; it will simply be made of different ingredients next time.

Yes. The problem is WHAT IS "gun control"? All I'm hearing are played out suggestions that have failed to make a meaningful difference in the past. (Also, there were already MULTIPLE laws against about 30 things that kid did in CT).

A) NONE of you gun control advocates can point to any stats that show correlation between more gun control and less gun violence IN AMERICA. (See: Chicago, DC, Compton, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

B) So in place of that you try to make emotional pleas that essentially ask people not to think logically and just accept what you are proposing as gospel.

C) And since your argument isn't based on any kind of logical argument, you have to have a boogeyman: NRA. Your goal is to make people think the NRA doesn't care about dead children and by extension anyone who supports what the NRA supports doesn't care about dead children either.

D) Where were all you "concerned" gun control advocates while Chicago's murder rate was up FORTY NINE PERCENT over last year (same city that has enacted gun control laws so strict the courts had to strike some of them down as unconstitutional). Oh right, dead black and latino males don't matter NEARLY as much as white children in a nearly all white school in CT.

YES! in fact if all people where require by law to have a gun on their person at all times 102.3% of every single gun crime would be prevented. This is a fact, it was proven by a scientific experiment at the NATO War Defence College in Rome!

No, there should be rational gun control by the states not the federal government for lots of reasons.

Responsible gun ownership is at the heart of all good gun control, everything else is nonsense.

It is definitely a fallacy to think that somebody besides you is thinking about no gun control at all.

Minors, mentally ill people, convicted felons and postal workers should not have access to guns

No Dave it's not. It would be if a gun were an evil act in itself. But since it's not. You can't claim that.

If I said " There shouldn't be laws again murder, because people will commit murder anyways " ? Then that would be a logical fallacy.

I could use a car to drive myself to work or ti the store. But if I were to start running people over. Should we ban cars ? Of course not. Maybe ban the person committing the crime from owning or driving a car, but not the car itself.

Can you demonstrate that it stops ANY crimes?

Because crime seems to go up in areas where there is more gun control.

Yes. Of course.

But nobody is calling for no gun control at all.

So, the question was rather pointless.

Criminals wont care about the law. I dont know people feel the need to cling to their hopes of them caring. Be afraid and cry some more because your silly laws mean nothing to a man or woman who is over the edge and intent on doing some damage.