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Do we ration justice for the dredges of the society as evidenced by this incident ?

enclosed in this youtube video:

http://youtu.be/J2x4Y31cMQE

Will look forward to your comments.

Thanks

Rehman of Multan

Update:

Dear Ms Chelle,

Thank you for your detailed and insightful reply. There are a few points to this video:

1. Gang rape is most often a gang related crime, as opposed to a spontenous event. Usually the word "Gang" is being used in the sense of: "a group of recurrently associating individuals or close friends with identifiable leadership and internal organization, identifying with or claiming control over territory in a community, and engaging either individually or collectively in violent or other forms of illegal behavior." The people who committed the latest gang rape had some tacit understanding and knew each other . They were it seems from the very dredges of society, the strata with which most reserve our harshest punishments, especially if they do not have any political clout. Usually the gang condones their offenses and protects them.

My question to you is this, why were the members of the US army that committed the gang-rape and murder of an innocent 14 year

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    8 years ago
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    One would think you would have a receptive audience in me, but you do not. I am too much a student of history, especially military history over time. Despite my personal experience, I do not agree with your premise, which is flawed anyway, because they were all court-martialed and found guilty.

    The "lightest" sentence was 90 years, for someone who smoked a cigarette and watched, never touched anyone, but concealed knowledge of the event and the highest was 110 years for those involved in the rape and murders. One person who only heard about it second hand and simply didn't report it got a less than honorable discharge and 27 months in the stockade, which is HELL, which also means he will receive no military benefits after SERVING IN WAR TIME and risking his life. Another, who took no part in the killing but served as lookout, got a one hundred year sentence. So, where you get this "not guilty" idea is beyond me. You must have some version of FoxNews over there that only tells you lies you wish to hear.

    Atrocity and rape are part of war. They always have been and always will be. If you can show me a single war in which the opposing "armies" were not taught to dehumanize the "other" in order to for the rulers to rationalize the killing and to make the "soldiers" less likely to hesitate, I'll show you a myth. I do not say that's a good thing, but you and I both know it's true. Women, and children, are part of the spoils of war and have been throughout history. I didn't design the system, I'm simply describing it.

    You err greatly in your assumption that the American soldiers were rich. Rich Americans do not fight wars. Our wars are fought by our poor people. Even in times when service is required by military draft, our rich find ways to keep their children out of war. Only the very brave and very patriotic, like John F. Kennedy and John Kerry actually serve from anywhere but the relatively safe confines of the cockpit in times of war. The men who appear to have raped that fourteen year old girl did so in the fog of war, after atrocity had been done upon some of their own people.

    I do not justify what they did, but when you choose to use shock and graphic video to wring emotion from an audience that consists mostly of teens, you should take care to present all the relevant facts, not just those most inflammatory and likely to support your own cause....whatever that might be.

    Do you think the ..I will not call them men ...in Delhi who assaulted that young woman so violently and painfully with something so large that she required gastroenterological SURGERY to try to save her life, should be allowed free because you imagine some miscarriage of justice happened in the fog of war in Iraq?

    I do not know how your culture would state this, but here we would simply say "two wrongs do not make a right."

    On a completely separate note, yes, I do agree that the more wealthy one is the more likely one is to purchase what passes for justice in this world...no matter where one lives.

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