what do you think of the ongoing intelligent design/evolution debate going on in many states?

It saddens me that there is even a debate. Evolution has been proven, the Theory is merely an explanation of how it happens. The ID folks are off their rockers.

As with religion, it's 100% made up.

-The wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Institute manifesto known as the Wedge Document,[1] which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to defeat materialism, naturalism, evolution, and "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions."[2] The strategy also aims to affirm God's reality.[3] Its goal is to change American culture by shaping public policy to reflect conservative Christian, namely evangelical Protestant, values.[4] The wedge metaphor is attributed to Phillip E. Johnson and depicts a metal wedge splitting a log to represent an aggressive public relations program to create an opening for the supernatural in the public’s understanding of science.[5]0

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Throughout the trial and in various submissions to the Court, Defendants vigorously argue that the reading of the statement is not 'teaching' ID but instead is merely 'making students aware of it.' In fact, one consistency among the Dover School Board members' testimony, which was marked by selective memories and outright lies under oath, as will be discussed in more detail below, is that they did not think they needed to be knowledgeable about ID because it was not being taught to the students. We disagree. .... an educator reading the disclaimer is engaged in teaching, even if it is colossally bad teaching. .... Defendants' argument is a red herring because the Establishment Clause forbids not just 'teaching' religion, but any governmental action that endorses or has the primary purpose or effect of advancing religion. (footnote 7 on page 46)

After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980s; and (3) ID's negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. …It is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (page 64)

Accordingly, we find that the secular purposes claimed by the Board amount to a pretext for the Board's real purpose, which was to promote religion in the public school classroom, in violation of the Establishment Clause. (page 132)

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Cretards LIE.

The religious side will never accept that the issue has been settled. It will take a generational change to get past this non problem. The only controversy is in the minds of the deluded.

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Regards,

John Popelish

The constitution allows people to be as stupid as they can.

The only controversy is how can people who find their way home at night think Intelligent Design has any merit.

But only in the backward United States of America...

There's no controversy anywhere else in the world.

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No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.

Albert Einstein

All metaphysical discussion is profitless unless it causes us to seek within

the Self for the true reality. All controversies about creation, the nature of the

universe, evolution, the purpose of God, etc., are useless. They are not

conducive to our true happiness. People try to find out about things which

are outside of them before they try to find out "Who am I?" Only by the

latter means can happiness be gained.

Sri Ramana Maharshi (December 30, 1879 – April 14, 1950)

Disputes, worldly associations and quarrels should be avoided.

Not even spiritual disputations should be indulged in, whether good or bad.

(Derikalottara)

Bhagavad Gita

Chapter 6: Verse 5.

Let a man raise himself, let him not lower himself; for, he alone is the friend of himself, he alone is the enemy enemy of himself.

best report on this is - - - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/americans...

it must be noted that a lot of the people who believe in creationism also happen to be republicans :D.

americans are all so depressed that we are no longer the darling of earth - so we're reverting back to the olden times of feel good stories.

pity.

i don't see the problem - maybe god started with an intelligent design and then sat back and let evolution do the rest

It is stupid. Think about it this way: If people wants to control us through religion they will not be happy with atheist that tells us it is all a bunch of lies. They will tell us to kill the evil atheists. We being stupid and brainwashed will do it.

To prevent that we should just teach creationism in schools.

Those of us in Europe, India, and many other countries are just laughing at dumb Americans, and are putting out the metaphorical welcome mat for yet more science based, especially biological science based companies and research organisations to pull out of the US and move their operations (& jobs) to one or more of our countries.