LDS/Mormons: Does it make you sad when your prophet lies?

It made me sad when Paul H. Dunn's fabrications came out to the public. He was a very good speaker and I thought the world of him. I used to have an entire collection of his talks on cassette tapes. I didn't hate him though, I just wish he would have said from the beginning that his stories were not true. Thomas S. Monson should have learned from the Paul H. Dunn incident.

I don't want to mock this religion although they follow false prophets and mock every other religion in the world. I have an aunt that's this type. I tried to use as a scape goat to not have to go to the other fellowship. No didn't work. I was forgiven for my sins was all by Emersion and by my uncle. I won't go back.

Probably not a lie. Could be a mistake. Could be (and IMHO more likely is) a situation of NOT providing correct details in order to not violate someone else's privacy.

He wasn't telling a story to get the facts right about some guy's life. He was telling a story to make a point - and that was done. It didn't matter what the name of the boat was or what color the kid's hair might have been. These are filler details that don't effect the point.

You should stop spending your efforts on trying to prove the LDS wrong and find a better purpose for your life. Failing that, you should at the very least find a better source of information about the LDS than RFM or exmormon.org.

I have not got any doubt he lied approximately it by using fact the mormons have been already an unpopular team and he did not elect the church to be much greater socially unaccepted (or prosecuted via the regulation). i'm specific lots of his very own followers might have left the church had they hardship-unfastened approximately it, and it replaced into for his very own secure practices besides. Bravo-Alpha, in case you basically knew how completely cliche you sound. we're not frightened of threats of eternal punishment, and we don't elect to return back.

The only thing that makes me sad about this is the sad and pathetic attempt at trying to disprove my religion.

You should know as much as I do that sometimes people who are recollecting a story they they don't get every detail right, especially the older one gets. Thomas S Monson isn't immune from forgetting something or remembering something a way it didn't happen. Is it lying if you tell the story how you remember it? I wouldn't think so. Lying is something deliberate usually.

Seriously... I give this a 2/10 as an attempt to try to discredit him. This is just called being nit-picky, especially since this isn't a doctrine or something really important in the church. What's important is what we can take out of the story to improve ourselves, not the details.

Mormons give more money to charity than any other group of people in the world

and no other group of people in the world is even in the same ballpark

according to income tax returns.

None of what you wrote changes that fact.

None of what you wrote can change that fact.

Latter Day Saints do not typically have venereal diseases.

Can Anti-Mormons who never mention anything about the

charity that Mormons give, can they say the same???

Something to consider when you are sitting in the V.D. clinic waiting room

waiting for your herpes medication that does not cure and your AZT.

Was it is Mormons that gave you venereal diseases???

Yet it is Mormons that you hate.

If you had any rationality at all to you, you would direct your hate

somewhere else, like to the person who gave you V.D. in the first place...

that kind of person, not Mormons.

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http://mormon.org/ Chat.

God bless.

Edit: The Problem with Anti-Mormons is they are all a bunch of parrots

who parrot what other Anti-Mormons gibberish.

You claim that the Lexington did not sink in the Battle At Corral Sea

Wikipedia claims that you sir are a one hundred percent lying scumbag...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington-class_aircr...

This is why it is always important to check on the facts and

never ever not in a billion times a billion years believe what some

Anti-Mormon says online, or anywhere else for that matter.

No Mormon should believe anything Anti-Mormons say (or write) ever

certainly not without doing a great deal of research first.

an honest mistake is far from a lie.

my father served in the south pacific in the navy on the USS baltimore. my own brother would swear up and down that dad was not on that boat but another...and my other brother would swear that dad was never even in WWII....why? because they can't remember that they have been shown the proof of that several times. they got the facts wrong...so are they lying? nope. they just get it wrong. see dad was called back just prior to leaving port for his father's funeral and it caused some confusion in the telling of stories later....

my uncle was in the army in france during WWII. while he was recovering in the hospital there the govt. sent my family a letter indicating that he was killed while serving in Germany with the navy. did they lie? nope they just got the information wrong.

so he got a couple of the facts from someone else's life wrong. TSM wasn't with him in WWII. he didn't follow him through the war and record every detail of his doings. and it wasn't the point of things anyway.

he got a couple of details wrong....so what? you never got anything wrong in your life? there is a reason that Christ made that whole point about throwing the first stone.

edit: and you don't know it's a lie - but you ASSUMED that. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that "arthur patton" wasn't really the small boy TSM was remembering either. I don't often "share" stories that are not mine and leave the details intact because I don't know that "mrs. patton" might not want me to tell her story.....

you know what really DOES make me sad is that there are so many individuals that sit around trying to find something disparaging about someone else to try and "prove" something about a religion they profess not to believe in anyway....THAT makes me sad...that they have no more life to occupy themselves than to "worry" about what I believe.

the LDS don't claim inerreant prophets. we know that prophets are MEN called by God to a job. He does not perfect them and they stand subject to the same failings and passions as any other human being on the planet...except for those few times when God uses them to speak.

BTW - your fact checker fell asleep the Lexington was indeed sunk @the battle of the coral sea....the first carrier battle in history - 1942.

If YOU did it, or if someone they don't like did the same as Monson, they would rip them to shreds. And they know its true, too.

The responses to this question are clearly a classic of how mormons must process things. They are literally TERRIFIED of facing facts that their prophet-pope is the same type of shyster as Smith. It's a nice story to them. Who cares if facts were skewed to elicit a false emotional response? That's as far as they dare go in their minds. Anything beyond that is.... reality. They can't handle reality and remain mormon because of the inevitable conflict.

It's not an honest mistake that Mormons make when turning a blind eye to the glaring falsehoods of their false religion. It's quite deliberate.

I'm with phrog. An honest mistake is far from a lie. You, sir, are straining at gnats, and not doing a very good job. What would you have us do, assume he lies every time he might have made a mistake? If you want to show that prophet lying, you are going to have to do better than this. This doesn't qualify for grasping at straws, it is such a weak argument.

Nope. because it is unlikely that he does.

I'm w/the phrog on this one....I wouldn't leave the details of other people in my story correct either. you change the names to 'protect the [privacy of the] innocent'. it is ridiculous to think that something like this reflects on his standing as a prophet of God....a prophet is only a prophet when he is one. not every word that a prophet speaks comes from God and God doesn't inspire us to tell stories in detail....He inspires the message - which was that there is something after this life.

and who the hell sits around and checks on this stupid stuff anyway....don't they have a life? why do they think it would matter? who cares whether or not the name in a story from 1969 is "right" or not. the story was told to make a point...that we have a Father in Heaven and that He is mindful of each of us. that there is something to look forward to besides death.

people are stupid.