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Is Canada experiencing the same fire problem as the US, where the fires in the west are getting worse?
The American Geophysical Union released a study last week which documents increases in the size and number of fires in the US West.
http://news.agu.org/press-release/more-bigger-wild...
"The researchers found that most areas that saw increases in fire activity also experienced increases in drought severity during the same time period. They also saw an increase in both fire activity and drought over a range of different ecosystems across the region.
"Twenty eight years is a pretty short period of record, and yet we are seeing statistically significant trends in different wildfire variables -- it is striking," said Max Moritz, a co-author of the study and a fire specialist at the University of California-Berkeley Cooperative Extension."
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"Looking at the ecoregions more closely, the authors found that the rise in fire activity was the strongest in certain regions of the United States: across the Rocky Mountains, Sierra Nevada and Arizona- New Mexico mountains; the southwest desert in California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Texas; and the southern plains across western Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and eastern Colorado."
What about Canada? What do our neighbors to the north see happening?
Regardless of your feelings about the cause, this is a worrisome trend. Are there any plans to do anything about it, or do we wait and see if it really continues to get worse, even though the trend is statistically significant now?
Solutions?
How long have we been using controlled burns to clear out the built-up dead wood? How long will some people keep claiming this is the only reason for more and worse fires?
The question is actually: "Is Canada experiencing the same fire problem as the US, where the fires in the west are getting worse?" It's about the actual occurrence of fires during the past few decades in Canada, a North American country with a lot of trees. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
Justin, the study *proved* nothing. It did give evidence that the forest fires and precipitation patterns we see in the US West are what is expected from global warming. SO if there is no global warming, then why the pattern of fire and drought? And is Canada experiencing something similar?
John, so far, you are the only one who has even come somewhat close to addressing the question, much less answering. But you dispute the statistical significance of the study results with a blanket statement that 28 years is too short - why?
John, are you objecting to the statistics, or the climate science?
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- Anonymous7 years agoFavorite Answer
In 2011 (I believe) half the town of Slave Lake was destroyed by fire, last year we had massive flooding. 28 years is not long enough to demonstrate a trend.
Edit: I dispute the significance of the study because I don't believe that less then three decades of statistics is enough to draw concrete conclusions which could not be explained other ways. Increased human presence in northern Alberta increases the risk of accidental fires and may not be indicative of drier conditions. Or you could fall back on the somewhat naive position that the dry conditions are part of a cyclical trend (although I personally don't believe it) which one would be hard pressed to disprove with data spanning such a short time line. Climatologists want to look at data spanning centuries , not decades.
Source(s): I live in Calgary Alberta - JimZLv 77 years ago
Raisin is right. Much if not all of the increased fire risk is predictable based on bad forest management and not allowing natural fires burn. It also is why pine beetles and other pests have been getting worse. The increased pests come from crowded diseased trees that tend to make fires much much worse when they finally do come through. I learned that when I was 8 years old but then again I was a very prodigious reader. When I see people trying to blame it on "climate change" my eyes roll back into their sockets.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
I'm sorry you haven't gotten much if anything in the way of meaningful answers.
I'm afraid I don't have much of one either, but I do have a bit of info from my uncle, who used to be a forest ranger (he's retired now).
He was talking about the subject of forest fires. He said that, early in his career, when he was on a "campaign" fire (a big fire, where they need to bring in people from all over), the old-timers told him to pay attention and learn everything he could from it, because there might not be another one for years. Now, they have one of those something like 2 or 3 times a year.
I know, anecdotal, not statistical, and about the US, but I thought you could use some backup.
Source(s): Please check out my open questions. - Anonymous7 years ago
We had previously been stamping out every forest fire as soon as it started. We are still doing this. This makes it so that the underbrush grows thick and the forest fires become less and less controllable. Sure ti becomes more prevalent during drought seasons, it always has.
If you want to link this to a consequence of AGW, then show a statistically significant increase in the number of droughts.
As it stands I get SICK AND TIRED of you warmers linking everythign to AGW and not doing a bit of real analysis. Global warming is supposed to place more H2O in the atmosphere and your response is that placing more H2O in the atmosphere leading to droughts and floods??? That does not even make sense.
Sure you use the climate change idiocy to say that every change that can possibly happen in any location is caused by climate change, BUT CLIMATES ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. You need to link it directly to CO2 emissions!!!!
And the REAL solution is simple. Let the forest fires go. The reason we do not do this are because we don't want people to die in fire or their houses to go up in flames.
- RioLv 67 years ago
Since when does < 1% become a global phenomenon? Is anything corrected by controlled burns or the lack of ? It could just as well have beneficial aspects. I'm not sure your really asking a real question.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
Instead of water dropped by planes and helicopters, use dry dirt, because only dirt and dirt dust puts out fires upon contact immediately. Water evaporates, dirt or sand dont. Check with the Covington Who's Who web site for Disaster solutions under my title The Major Disaster Solutionist American Master. For everyones safety. Mike
Source(s): common logic - ?Lv 77 years ago
The reason they are getting worse is because of the greenies. They won't let anyone groom the forests. Dead wood (or fuel) just keep building up and then when a fire starts it has plenty of fuel and no roads to get to the fire to extinguish it. Thank you Greenies!
- Anonymous7 years ago
So, the study proved that when there is less rain there are more fires. That is pretty much it. Who woulda figured.
- Anonymous7 years ago
Our last fire season was not as bad as it was before