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Christians who support Trump, how can you justify the harm he's doing to the US?

100,000s of Americans have died because Trump  has done nothing to control Covid [this is a statistical fact, not just my personal opinion].

He and the republicans are clearly trying to suppress votes by taking several US states to court, saying that ballots received after Nov. 3 should not be counted.

Trump and DOJ's Bill Barr have sued to do away with Obamacare, which, if they win (and they've stacked the court in their favor by appointing Kavanaugh and Barrett)  means that pre-existing conditions would no longer be covered (or that the cost of coverage for pre-existing conditions would no longer be affordable for the average American).

Trump lies continuously--every single day--to the public, always telling lies that serve his election well (such as "I reduced taxes for the middle class" which Trump did NOT do--he gave the tax breaks ONLY  to the multi-millionairs and billionaires).

So Christians, how  can you still support Trump knowing that he's being about as un-Christian as a person can get?

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  • 6 months ago

    You don't have the first damn clue about anything you're talking about. First I am sick of these morons who try to hang all the deaths from COVID-19 on Trump but DO NOT have the guts to explain JUST WHAT he should have done differently to have avoided them! Well? Explain it!

    This when Trump implemented restrictions on travel from China in January. Liberals literally called him "racist" for doing so. They were the ones who still hadn't got a grasp of the danger presented by the Chinese coronavirus yet, not Trump. More travel restrictions from other regions as well as other actions were implemented soon after. Trump has been ahead of the game from the beginning. There has been a bigger effort toward making a vaccine than anytime in American history, with government support. One or more may actually be ready this year, faster than expected with manufacturing ready to go into high gear to put it out there when it's or they're ready.

    Trump put national resources like hospital ships in NYC (that didn't get used) while while governors like Cuomo put elderly COVID patients right back in the nursing homes. HE is the one that has DIRECT culpability for COVID-19 deaths...NOT Trump! 

    As for the ballot crap. How "dare" Trump want to establish a deadline for when votes should be counted.....as it has been done through HISTORY of US elections! Absentee ballots have ALWAYS needed to be in by election day! 

    And don't give this shiit about stacking the damn courts! The ONLY people who are trying to stack (pack) the courts are Dems who are hopping mad Trump replaced justices who have died with ones that will follow Originalism in how they will interpret Constitutional law, meaning going by how the drafters wanted the law to be interpreted (when there isn't clarity on the subject)...NOT create new law based on what given justices would personally like it to mean (legislating from the bench). The Dems want to pack the courts adding justices that will legislate from the bench adding 3, 5, or more justices, destroying the court ALL BECAUSE they didn't have Hillary there to replace the justices instead of Trump!

    As for taxes, the middle class DID get a tax cut of $2,000. Many small businesses (sole proprietorships) benefited too. They look rich on paper but their "riches" are all in their businesses. 

    As for you dragging Christianity into this stupid discussion. Real Christians, especially Evangelicals have supported Trump because he has been a steadfast supporter of 1st Amendment liberties and will not let them be trampled on. Which is more important than how one individual man lives his life.

  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    Atheists who think they're skeptics, how can you justify asking rigged questions? Hitchen's Razor, bitches, it's not just for thumpers anymore. 

    "This is a statistical fact". Please. Do you not understand that one can lie with statistics? Do you not understand that the statistics could, themselves, be FALSE. Yeah, people can LIE. Do you think statistics just magically appear in giant stone letters? No. People SAY things and they call those things 'statistics'. Once upon a time, there were probably 'statistics' saying that smoking was good for you. 

    What you consider 'clear' is what I suspect to just be agenda based thinking. Basically faith. 

    "he gave the tax breaks ONLY to the multi-millionairs and billionaires).". Oh look! A claim! That means you have burden of proof! Don't like it? Well then quit telling the Christians that they have to prove God exists. 

    Also, hey, Trump has denounced white supremacy like a dozen times. Proof? There's VIDEO. It's on YOUTUBE. Look it up! It's NOT HARD TO FIND. Why do I bring this up? B/c I keep bringing it up and I keep seeing leftists say "He never denounced it!" like a bunch of ******' drones. 

    Look, if you want CHRISTIANS to be open minded critical thinkers, why don't YOU GUYS start? Why don't YOU show them how it's done? I say this AS an atheist. I'm just sick of the hypocrisy and the stupidity of atheist progressives. I direct questions to 'atheist progressives' or 'progressive atheists' and some of them are like "What's that? The one has nothing to do with the other!" like they don't understand how adjectives and F'ing nouns work. It's unfuckingbelievable how much like 'thumpers' the progressives act. 

    Get your **** together b/c right now, I swear to 'God', I'm going to side with the conservative Christians against you idiots b/c you're so F'ing obnoxious, closed minded, dogmatic and authoritarian. You're hypocrites and you project like your lives depended on it. You're like the Christians were about a century or two ago. 

  • 6 months ago

    The democrats have the media on their side like Hitler did.  They are the ones to fear.  Amazing how many gullible people believe the lies of the left. Trump tried to have immigrants heavily vetted way before covid ever began.  Any harm done has been from democrats refusal to accept their loss, spending the last four years trying to get Trump out, and preventing progress like the infrastructure. Trump has tried to keep up the people's morale during the pandemic.  The other side has tried to use it to cripple our economy to insure their efforts to force their socialism on us.

  • ?
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    6 months ago

    I guess you forgot that when this started the "experts" were saying that at least 1 MILLION people could die if Trump didn't impose the kind of lockdown they recommended.  He immediately convened a task force of experts to try to deal with the spread of the disease and expand the availability of protective equipment, treatments and vaccines.  He made field hospitals and even hospital ships available to hard hit cities.  Expecting him to be able to stop the spread of COVID is like expecting Obama/Biden to has stopped the spread of the flu.  You also seem to think that "harm" includes lower taxes, record low unemployment rates, better trade deals, a stronger military and numerous other things. 

  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    Thats the question of all time. So called Christians following a man the total opposite of Christ our Lord.

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