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Dru Tod asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 3 months ago

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Have we moved beyond this in our enlightenment?

A woman wrote this in the nineteenth century, a woman who no doubt faced her fair share of challenges, being a brilliant mind in an age where her views were not always welcome, as an outspoken female who never married.

What would she make of a person being called names for expressing the view that there is intolerance of opposing ideas that borders on Nazism after causing a controversy for posting “boop, bop, beep” in her preferred pronouns?

It was actually a teachable moment. Her co-star told her about a transgender sibling and why it’s important. So... are we now to understand that forgiveness and tolerance of dissenting views is a thing of the past? Likening the political climate to Nazi Germany was something to be fired over, after we have four years of everyone calling each other fascist?

Please don’t assume I am a conservative. I am not. Just a person who fondly remembers free speech.

Update:

Weasel, if likening people to fascists is criminal slander, why aren’t you and I in jail by now?

Oh. Right. Boop Bop Beep is totally criminal. It’s stupid, sure, but if we are throwing people who tweet dumb things in prison along with those who have complained about Nazi behaviour, most of society will be in jail.

Update 2:

Not Voltaire:  

In The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"[4] as an illustration of Voltaire's beliefs.[5] This quotation – which is sometimes misattributed to Voltaire himself – is often cited to describe the principle of freedom of speech.[6][7]

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  • 2 months ago

    The fact is, if you voice an obscene opinion, you ought to expect condemnation and criticism in response.

  • Ted K
    Lv 7
    3 months ago

    With respect to the Constitutional 1st Amendment, nobody is being denied free speech.  That right has a specific, defined meaning according to law.  No one should have to spell that out.  And, in the particular case you are referring to, that right is NOT being violated.

    One thing that freedom of speech is NOT, is the right to speech without any accountability to one's fellow citizens, who are equally free to criticize said speech.  Free speech comes with the understanding that just because you are free--within certain constraints--to express opinions without fear of governmental prosecution, that doesn't mean one is free from any and all social consequences--and one of those is what those on the right--with their irritating insistence on portraying themselves as put-upon victims--now love to call getting "cancelled."  Tough sh!t.  Just as one has the right to think up something stupid, then publically say it, one also has the right to think up something stupid, but then choose to NOT say it.  The choice comes down to one's maturity and penchant for executing sound judgment.  Making the wrong choice is not--and shouldn't be--free from any and all consequences.  To coexist along with others in a society comes with certain societal expectations and obligations--mainly centered around respect for others as one would want for themselves.  Without that, then why have a society at all?  Why even have a civilization?  Why not just have everyone living for themselves?  Total anarchy.  Whoever has the biggest gun or the most guns wins.

    This person's employment was contingent upon agreed upon limitations in her contract with her employer. She chose to "exercise of her free speech rights" in a manner that violated those terms of employment, and so her employers exercised their right to terminate her employment. The government didn't hassle her at all. Disney simply made a business decision.  And she now has the right to seek employment elsewhere. 

     

  • Mike
    Lv 7
    3 months ago

    I don't get it. Who are you talking about?

  • ?
    Lv 7
    3 months ago

    I'm afraid the Social Justice Warrior children will physically attack you for suggesting such a thing. The poor kids are awfully sick in their little heads these days, you know.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    3 months ago

    I agree with you and do not say I’m a democrat because I’m not.

  • Anonymous
    3 months ago

    I disagree, it was Voltaire who first said that in the 18th century but I will defend to the death your right to say is was a woman in the 19th century.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    3 months ago

    Stop confusing "FREE SPEECH"  with CRIMINAL slander and Libel. 

    There **ARE** laws about such things. 

    Just as you can't Yell   "FIRE!!!!!"  In a crowded movie theater,   purposely causing a stampede, when there is no fire....... there AREEEEEE limits to your "Free Speech"  when it crosses the line into  ILLEGALITY. 

    ADULTS understand this. 

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