Why do some of you believe the Old Testament is null and void?
God is consistent. He does not change. When He says something, you can live by it, whether it is said in the Old Testament or the New Testament. Yes God is dealing with people through grace instead of the Law, but He has not changed. Paul tells us that the Law was never meant to justify people but rather to bring people to Christ:
2006-08-02T12:19:37Z
Now there are lots of things in the Old Testament that don't really pertain to us. Such as the instructions for building the Tabernacle, or even the Law of Moses. However, people again stray when they think they can reject what the Old Testament says out of hand. For example people will say that we do not live under the Law, we live under grace. Well that is true, but what does it mean? People will try to tell you that it means we don't have to be concerned about things like the 10 commandments any longer because that is the Law and we are not under the law anymore. Well these same people might be surprised to find that the New Testament confirms all but one of those 10 commandments. The only one which is not confirmed for us by a new commandment in the New Testament is to keep the Sabbath.
2006-08-02T12:23:04Z
Troy, you chose to read my question. You may leave I you'd like. Thanks. God bless.
2006-08-02T12:26:02Z
Cheesewhiz, I never said EVERYONE is a Christian. *ugh*
billyandgaby2006-08-02T12:21:39Z
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becasue the whole bible was written by people thousands of years ago and edited by kiings and queens ove rthe years
This is an old argument, and I am frankly tired of Christians being ignorant of our own scriptures. Sorry if I sound testy, but this really is inexcusable if you go to church and study your Bible regularly.
The easiest way to put it is that the New Testament says in several places that the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. However, the New Testament incorporates by reference parts of the Old Testament (Such as the Ten Commandments; see Romans 13:8-10 for example). So the Old Testament is a guide to interpret the new Testament, but any commandment of Moses that is expressly set aside by Jesus (like the stoning of adulterers, for example (John 8:1-11)) is now void.
See also Mark 7:1-23; Acts 11:9-29 & 15:1-31; Galatians 3:15-25 & 5:13-26; Hebrews 8:1-13.
Naah! not to me. In fact, the book we call The New Testament is very much a part of the Old Testament because should you nullify the Old, you will miss the relevance of what was said in the New. The book of Revelation on the other hand, if you will really digest it to the fullest, you will find that that new supports the old. Finally, in the Book of Prophet Jeremiah the real New Testament could already have been printed in the hearts of some man living today because God said, (time will come that brothers will no longer learn from their brothers about ME because I dwell in each heart) P.S. read the book for HIS exact words. Jeremiah 31:33
It is because of Paul that many think the Law is no longer needed.
Romans 3:28: Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
2 Timothy 1:9:Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began
So according to Paul you can have Grace is given us no matter what are our works, no matter if we follow the Law or not.
However, that is not what Christ taught.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
So Christ followed the Law and lived by it.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
So to say Jesus is Lord etc is not going to cut it. Only by your works can one truely know if you have the Grace.
Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
And now a quote by Maitreya-ji from the Mission of Maitreya in a Satsang from 08.03.2002 which so wonderfully explains the topic:
Some people say, “Oh you do not need to follow Laws, you need Grace.” Grace is the Law. The moment you have The Grace, you follow the Ten Commandments with no thinking.
Did Christ have The Grace? Yes. Did he follow the Ten Commandments? Yes, because he had The Grace. They go hand-in-hand. The Grace and the Law are one. The Essence and the Law are one.
Grace would be nothing without law. Because if there was not law, then what purpose would there be for grace?
But the excuses for disregarding the law show a contempt for the law. And what judge shows grace to someone who has contempt for the law? The judge is sworn to uphold the law.
And if a "new" law confirms an old one, then it isn't a new law, is it? Isn't that just pointing to the old one?
There are many things that aren't mentioned in the NT, because it's people were quite familiar with Judaism, many things are just taken for granted. But even in the NT it mentions that the Sabbath remains.