Christians opposed to gay marriage, are you saving gay people from hell with this law?
I'm curious to hear from all the "loving" Christians, how exactly they are helping gay people by not allowing them to marry.
I know... gay people are going to hell and all, but obviously, they are going to be gay, whether you let them get married or not. So... what exactly is the benefit of keeping gay marriage illegal? Who benefits from this, and how?
2008-01-29T11:25:14Z
Edit - speaking for myself, and I think I speak for a lot of straight people... even if the government PAID me to marry another man... it wouldn't turn me gay. So I doubt that gay marriage is going to "create" gay people.
2008-01-29T12:01:55Z
For those that are saying it harms the church's definition of marriage, you are simply, and completely wrong. Gay people want civil unions. They don't care what your church's opinion or practice is.
NOJ2008-01-29T11:28:54Z
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I've heard a number of Christians proudly say that if there were no God they would be murderers and rapists. Maybe they are afraid that if there were no laws prohibiting gay marriage they might find themselves in a gay relationship and that scares them.
It's not the common Christian's fault. They are pawns in a political game of chess that is being played all throughout the United States. Most Christians could care less whether or not the gay couple down the street was legally married or not, although there are some hateful fundies that would take issue with such. It's just that politicians are pulling strings in order to convince Christians to vote for them. Apart from election season, you never hear about this argument. There's a reason: it's a hotbutton issue used to divide people along political lines, it was never an issue that was meant to be resolved.
Theologically speaking, there is no difference between whether homosexuals are married or not. The only people that benefit from banning same-sex marriage are those that preach that it's wrong and the businesses that don't have to give benefits to same-sex partners. Everyone else simply gets caught in the hysteria.
Edit: You're completely correct with your assertion that legalizing homosexual marriage would not create more gay people. Nor is there a "slippery slope" that comes with recognizing consensual adult relationships. Those that present those arguments would do well to revisit the evolution of Christian morals over the last 500 years.
Michelle C> So basically you are all in favor of black-white segragation. equal but seperate. You are favor of that 100%. Because if you are not that you are being a raving hypocrite because it is the same thing.
If anyone wants any proof that humanity is decended from a s**t flinging ancestor who was a dirty animal.....just look at the attitude here...all the proof Evolution needs. We are acting more disgusting than the dirtiest animal and would make the Nazi SS guard proud. We talk about keeping things pure, and good...bigots spout about how they believe in love while the spread hate and lies and fear.
Proving 100% that anyone who thinks we were created by God in God's image....has a deep hatred and zero respect for God.
This ban comes from a religion that thinks men sworn to celibacy raping little boys is fine..but if the boys are adults and consent to it with a lifelong bond then it condemns them to hell. Real sweet and full of goodness isn't it? Anyone who wishes to be part of this religion....needs to seriously re-think their decision and beliefs.
Oh one more thing to the "christian" bigots.....YOU EAT PORK+SHELLFISH..nothing said you could do that..in fact God said you COULD NOT..so you're all going to Hell anyway..why should anyone give a crap what you think?
I think most Christians believe that homosexuality in and of itself isn't a sit but acting on those desires is. So possibly somewhere in this twisted viewpoint they think that if gays are not allowed to get married that will deter them from acting on their homosexual desires. Well guess what? Gay people are going to be with, love, and have sex with the person they love whether or not they are allowed to get married.
I think they may also fear that allowing gay marriage will make people turn gay. That is bs. This planet will ALWAYS be mostly straight and allowing gay marriage isn't going to change that. Like you said, if a person is straight they are not going to want to marry someone of the same sex even if they had that option. Like right now, gay people have the option of marrying someone of the opposite sex, but they don't, b/c that is not who they are and that would not make them feel fulfilled and happy.
They also fear that in allowing gay marriage it will start to show young kids that homosexuality is in fact ok and they fear that. I see no problem with it. I think if in children's cartoons and television shows, if they can show a male and a female being in a relationship, having crushes etc, then they should also be able to show gays or lesbians doing the same thing. This is not any more inappropriate than exposing children to heterosexuality and will not make them turn gay or make them want to be gay. It will simply make them more open minded and accepting of others. If these things made children chose their sexuality than why are there gay people? We grew up seeing heterosexuality all around us and still we are attracted to the same sex.
I think it all boils down to fear. They try to cover it up with this excuse and that excuse but really it's all about fear and insecurity.
I've seen at least one person on here say something to the effect of "why do gays want to get married since it is an institution of god and they clearly don't believe in god or the bible" well guess what? Marriage really doesn't have anything to do with your god or the bible any longer. It is a political institution. My mom and stepdad are atheists. They do not believe in your god or your bible yet they were permitted to get married. If you feel that people who don't believe in god or the bible should not be allowed to marry than you should not just be attacking gays and lesbians it should be everyone who wishes to marry but does not follow your faith/god etc.
Fortunately, it's not up to the Christians on Y!A to decide whether to legalize gay marriage. The Supreme Court will rule that denying gay couples the right to marry is unconstitutional, and anybody who doesn't like it can go pound salt.