Are we united in grief over yesterday's events in the Gaza Strip?

Israel's military messed up badly yesterday by all accounts, and many Palestinian civilians have paid the price, as well as three Israeli soldiers. People are grieving on both sides, and more violence could easily follow. Do we all agree that we need to find a way of stopping such tragedies from occurring?

2008-04-17T03:26:47Z

For anyone who missed what happened, this video gives a good summary (ignore the first few seconds of advertising):

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975671.html

Betty - I'm an Israeli, and I'm condemning it. There is blame on both sides in this sorry state of affairs.

2008-04-17T05:30:16Z

Blue Xull - I'm an Israeli, and I d*mn well do give a **** about Palestinian civilians

2008-04-17T06:11:22Z

Jon and Mike - thank you

2008-04-17T07:00:35Z

Hamarker - 4. Communication. It's the only hope, slim though it be

2008-04-17T07:16:29Z

Hamarker my friend - violence merely begets more violence, so the only hope of breaking the cycle is to desist from it and come to the table. It isn't quick and it isn't easy, but it is the only way. And if we stick to it, we will sort it out one day.

2008-04-17T07:27:00Z

Dear Hopeless - never give up. The greater the suffering, the greater the urge for peace, and the darkest hour always has to come before the dawn

2008-04-17T11:57:48Z

Jdriven and Mimi - thank you both too.

2008-04-17T12:47:05Z

Mark - I'm up for a full ceasefire. And if one could be brokered with all of the Palestinian factions (Fatah/Al Aqsa, Hamas/Izzadin, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, Al Aqsa, Army of Islam, etc.), I believe that Olmert's government would go for it too.

2008-04-17T12:50:27Z

(Oops - I meant Al Quds instead of the second Al Aqsa, but there are so many of them that it is easy to get confused...)

2008-04-17T13:57:29Z

Stainless Steel - good to see that we can at times agree with one another

Here to help - I don't believe that isolation will achieve the results you hope for.

2008-04-17T22:46:30Z

Bosco - there are other ways to bring an end to the violence.

jon2008-04-17T05:54:46Z

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yes THE KILLING MUST STOP

Anonymous2008-04-17T13:27:20Z

I doubt people are united,but the violence needs to stop. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. I seems the people of the world are regressing,not progressing. The only way I see the the conflict there will ever stop is to isolate them physically and financially. I'm against collective punishment generally but the madness must end.

added. I'm just trying to think of peaceful options,I know that it would never happen. I think it is a better option than those that some offered. I guess will we keep watching the violence unfold daily,people seem to like a good fight,even if one participant is considerably weaker. Is it any wonder that the children are the way they are around the world. Too much hate for my tastes. I don't care if there is ever peace in my lifetime,I do care about the future my children and grandchildren will have as a result of a steady increase in hatred and violence worldwide. When will we as the human race advance.

You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. Golda Meir was wise at times.

HopelessZ002008-04-17T07:13:42Z

Thank you for coming at this time Londoner, I believe that you genuinely are in grief over the situation and I believe that many in Israel are. Again this is a very sad thing that takes the crisis to the breaking point. And farther away from peace. (hands up in the air) I don't know anymore, just when are we all going to stop arguing and stop all the hate. We are the simple people and they are the government. If at least the people could make peace, then maybe the gov. would follow. But everyone is just to busy hating these days. Peace!

Mimi-Israelis are the terrorists2008-04-17T11:42:37Z

Thanks londoner In Israel. I haven't been reading/watching/listening to middle east news for about a week due to final exams so I didn't know about this until seeing your post. I agree with you. Both sides have caused enough pain to each others and both sides should stop violence. As I said before and always say, violence have never solved a problem, it always make problems worse. Also Israel is not suddenly going to disappear from the world's map neither will the palestinians disappear from the world's population. We have to respect each others more and try to find a real solution rather than blaming each others and making the situation worse


and to hamarker,
don't forget that the Israelis are also responsibe for the failure of what you call "peace offers". Most of those offers are actually against the Palestinians not in favor with them. By the way, what is the latest news from Annapolis? Where are the lands that the Israelis promised the Palestinians with? I don't see any improvement but more illegal settlements being built on a land that was supposed to be given to the Palestinians according to your "peace offer".
How many Israelis support a Palestinian state?Or how many Israelis/Jews actually accept the Palestinians as a seperate race not just Arabs coming from arabic countries to "occupy" their holy land?
Also who killed Yizhak Rabbin after trying to make peace with palestinians?
The Oslo Accords that you keep talking about was mostly against the Palestinians.
So stop blaming the Palestinians in everything. The Israelis too are not keeping promises either. Sometimes I feel you are a great person, sometimes you make me sick.



hamarker,
the link you provided says there 34% of Israelis oppose a palestinian state, does this percentage seem small to you?
It is more than third of population.

" I don't see hamas accepting any peace agreement, if I saw a chance I would but they don't recognize israel"

The problem is that you see all Palestinians as hamas and you don't want to understand the not all palestinians are supporters of hamas and terrorists. You keep generalizing which makes me sick because this is not fair.

"why does Israel need to compromise about everything? why can't the other side (whic btw is the weak side that attacked Israel time after time and still is)compromise?"

The Palestinians compromised a long time ago when they let you occupy their country. Half of what is now Israel is illegal and supposed to be Palestine. The Palestinians are only asking for their right given to them by UN (the parts occupied in 1967) and the Israelis want them to compromise more. What do you expect them to tell take 90% of the country and give us one % that would be enough for us! does that seem like a fair compromise. And again you will tell me Hamas want the whole country but what about fatah and abu mazen who is doing his best to bring peace and accepted most of the Israeli conditions but only faced by killing more than 60 innocent civilians last months and only gets swears and blames from the Israelis and hamas supporters.

" why is it that the defending country that won has to compromise and the other side doesn't have to at all?"

Israel was merly a defending country in 1967 as they were the starters although not in a direct way. And wether Israel occupied the land during a defense war or not, it is still called occupier. If I come to steal your money and you instead stole everything I own because you were stronger, do you think the law will forgive you for that? You will be charged as a theif and put in jail even if you were defending yourself. The Israelis have to pay for their occupation. They brought the headache to themselves. Now when the Palestinians are calling for their rights, they are called terrorists.

why are we being blamed b/c they don't want to agree?
did israel not accept the 1947 resolution?

The partition plan in 1947 gave the Jews who were minority at that time more land than the Arabs who were majority. It also stated that the leadership can not be Arabic.The Arabs considered this unfair and started the war. If you want to argue about Jordan now, Jordan was given to the Arabs 27 years before Israel. The Palestinians who lived in Palestine at that time were still palestinians not Jordanians
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"accept the peace agreement and start doing something positive don't play victim, it doesn't help u."

Once you offer a real peace agreement, the Palestinians will accept it. Don't say we want peace and then kill the civilians.
How many Israeli civilians are killed compared to how many palestinian civilians? Don't tell me Hamas hide among the civilians, yes they do but some civilians are killed in areas that don't have hamas.
The Palestinians are not playing victims, they are victims of illegal zionist occupation and for some reason they have to pay their lives in addition to their homes.

I can occupy your home, kill your parents, and kidnap your brother/sister, then tell you ok hamarker, lets make a peace deal, I can give you your brother/sister back but leave me alone. And I say now I offered you a compromise, it is your turn to compromise.

?2016-10-20T02:04:22Z

usa ought to get out of the middle East. We waste 6 million money an afternoon financing Israel. We rather paid for the Gaza attack. now we ought to pay for the freshen up. Israel extensively utilized American money to construct the unlawful settlements then made usa pay extra money to eliminate the unlawful settlements in Palestine. the explanation why the terrorists attack us is using the fact we help Israel. would not you be mad on the Israel in the event that they stole your components and compelled you to pass away? Its no longer merely like the terrorists are upset for no reason.

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