I'm sure all of you Obama supporters are aware that Obama is a Socialist. There's simply no other word for it, no way to beat around the bush. Do you truly think that America needs to become a socialist nation?
What are the benefits of this? Health care for everyone, sure. But that would make the health care mediocre at best, and it encourages laziness among Americans. Why should the lazy people out there get the free health care that we pay taxes on when they're doing nothing to give back?
Why do you think this is right?
2008-10-08T19:05:20Z
Maybe I am one of those lazy people out there. Do you think I deserve everything free for sitting here and doing nothing while you work hard and only keep a fraction of your earnings because the rest goes to pay for someone's drug addiction?
livinglovinglaughingxalways2008-10-08T19:01:08Z
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I agree with you completely. Seriously, for all those supporting Obama, please think about what you're doing. Please.
Obama is a Keynsian who in any other developed country in the world would be considered a centrist. If that makes someone a democratic socialist then fine. As for health care - mediochre would be a massive step-up for the US. We pay twice the developed world average for healthcare per capita yet get by far the worst result. We have the lowest life expectancy, second lowest healthy life expectancy and highest child mortality in the developed world. As for laziness - that argument is a stunning case of intellectual laziness. To define lack of financial success merely in terms of laziness shows a stunning ignorance about both problems people face and the solutions Democrats offer.
That you can not come up with any sort of argument base on facts rather than self serving ignorance is probably why you are about to get caned in this election.
So you make over $250,000 a year. WOW! If you make that much you really shouldn't be complaining about a damn thing.
We are a very materialistic nation. Give me more more more more more more. More $, more sex, more food, faster cars, frivolous expenses, bigger houses etc. Many conservatives have strong convictions w/religion, but aren't charitable in any sense of what was taught to them. No one is getting "free health care." As moral humans health care is a RIGHT as Obama put it not a responsibility as Mcbush believes.
***Why should the lazy people out there get the free health care that we pay taxes on when they're doing nothing to give back?***
EVERYONE pays taxes not just you. You assume that only those that don't work need this coverage, but your assumption is wrong. Many buisnesses cannot afford to purchase health care for the employees. Have you heard about the economic situation going on? Are you aware that these small buisness owners are being denied loans and laying off people to survive. Health care isn't available for most small buisness owners due to high costs. Why should a minor under the age of 18 be a victim to your selfishness? Why should my 85 year old Grandma be denied Medicaid when she worked her *** off her entire life?
Barack Obama will pay for his $50 - $65 billion health care reform effort by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for Americans earning more than $250,000 per year and retaining the estate tax at its 2009 level.
Socialism is a transitional stage between capitalism and communism
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth into a small section of society who control capital, and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly.
Has Obama once said he is a socialist, or is that your assumption?
Health insurance per month is anywhere between $200-$1,000 dollars per month. That is not affordable to everyone making under $250,000. If I did make that much money a year I'd be more than willing to be taxed my *** off so that an eleven year old child can affordabley be treated with chemo instead of being left to die.
Obama is not only not a socialist, he's pretty far to the middle of the road. If you believe he's a socialist you don't really know the meaning of the word.
Obama's platform does not include nationalized healthcare; it includes national subsidies for private health care.
If you think there's something wrong with that go out on line and check out Norway, England, Canada, France, Germany and just about every country in Europe where people can actually get health care without going bankrupt.
Socialism is pouring huge amounts of national treasure into already wealthy financial institutions.
I disagree. No one should have to go without basic AFFORDABLE health care. What about people with kids? Should they not have health care because their parents can't afford it? Because the parents work 2-3 jobs and they STILL can't afford it? Sorry but that's just unacceptable. If anything the main reason for health care should be because of kids.
Lazy people? Like Banks who didn't do their jobs and Americans who didn't want to work hard to pay for their 'rock star lifestyles?
Socialism? Like the bail out you mean? Which all the Candidates voted for. You can continue to make this a 'one party' issue all you want. All sides have failed on many things in more way than one.
The only difference is alot of people recognize this and acknowledge it not just push the blame around when its convenient.